NRA 2013 election

As the name indicates, this is the place for gun-related political discussions. It is not open to other political topics.

Moderators: carlson1, Charles L. Cotton

Post Reply

Topic author
jframe.38
Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 63
Joined: Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:26 am

NRA 2013 election

#1

Post by jframe.38 »

I received my ballot in my copy of America's First Freedom and American Rifleman. I would like to hear the opinions of those on the forum.

I'm leaning toward Marion Hammer, Bob Barr and Ted Nugent. Is there anyone else on the ballot you like or don't care for.
User avatar

The_Busy_Mom
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 352
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:07 pm
Location: DFW Metro Area

Re: NRA 2013 election

#2

Post by The_Busy_Mom »

Check out this thread, if you haven't already.

viewtopic.php?f=102&t=62063&p=785041&hi ... rd#p785041" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:txflag: TBM
Texas CHL Instructor / NRA Certified Instructor
Final Shot Armory - Specializing in Firearms Sales & Transfers, NFA Sales
$20 Transfers for Current TX CHL Holders, Military, Teachers, LEO / $25 Everyone else
http://www.FinalShotUS.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

gringo pistolero
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 741
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:49 pm

Re: NRA 2013 election

#3

Post by gringo pistolero »

When should we start worrying if we haven't received a ballot?
I sincerely apologize to anybody I offended by suggesting the Second Amendment also applies to The People who don't work for the government.
User avatar

Skiprr
Moderator
Posts in topic: 4
Posts: 6458
Joined: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:50 pm
Location: Outskirts of Houston

Re: NRA 2013 election

#4

Post by Skiprr »

O.F.Fascist wrote:Well if you are curious on what they are discussing over at ARFCOM.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/144599 ... ming_.html

best way to do so is to vote for 25 people excluding him. There are 29 candidates so just pick the 4 you don't want to vote for and vote for everyone else.
Sorry, but that's not a good action for the folks at ARFCOM to recommend.

Voting for the NRA directors is not like your high-school SAT test. Filling in every dot doesn't get you any any "maybe" points.

Choose only those candidates you want. Do not vote for other candidates.

The votes are counted on a simple "for" number. The most "for" votes gets elected.

The notion of eliminating four candidates and voting for the other 25 will have a somewhat opposite effect: candidates you might otherwise choose not to vote for can slide into office on the heels of others. If you feel strongly about, say, eight of the candidates, vote only for those eight.
Join the NRA or upgrade your membership today. Support the Texas Firearms Coalition and subscribe to the Podcast.
I’ve contacted my State Rep, Gary Elkins, about co-sponsoring HB560. Have you contacted your Rep?
NRA Benefactor Life Member
User avatar

Skiprr
Moderator
Posts in topic: 4
Posts: 6458
Joined: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:50 pm
Location: Outskirts of Houston

Re: NRA 2013 election

#5

Post by Skiprr »

Skiprr wrote:
gringo pistolero wrote:When should we start worrying if we haven't received a ballot?
Now. You should have received your ballot either in the March edition of American Rifleman or American Freedom, or in a separate snail-mail envelope.

Any ballot not received by April 14 will not be counted.

If you haven't received a ballot, I would call NRA HQ first thing Monday morning.
Join the NRA or upgrade your membership today. Support the Texas Firearms Coalition and subscribe to the Podcast.
I’ve contacted my State Rep, Gary Elkins, about co-sponsoring HB560. Have you contacted your Rep?
NRA Benefactor Life Member

apostate
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 2336
Joined: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:01 am

Re: NRA 2013 election

#6

Post by apostate »

Skiprr wrote:
Skiprr wrote:
gringo pistolero wrote:When should we start worrying if we haven't received a ballot?
Now. You should have received your ballot either in the March edition of American Rifleman or American Freedom, or in a separate snail-mail envelope.

Any ballot not received by April 14 will not be counted.

If you haven't received a ballot, I would call NRA HQ first thing Monday morning.
I'm in the same boat. I can't recall the last time I received my American Rifleman, and I didn't receive a separate ballot.

Perhaps we can get the department that sends the "URGENT REMINDER" upgrade letters to send the ballots. They don't miss a beat. ;-)

O.F.Fascist
Member
Posts in topic: 3
Posts: 147
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:04 am
Location: Corpus Christi, TX, United States of America

Re: NRA 2013 election

#7

Post by O.F.Fascist »

FWIW I signed up as a life member on February 27th and I just received my ballot today.

I still have not received my membership packet and new card though.

O.F.Fascist
Member
Posts in topic: 3
Posts: 147
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:04 am
Location: Corpus Christi, TX, United States of America

Re: NRA 2013 election

#8

Post by O.F.Fascist »

Skiprr wrote: Choose only those candidates you want. Do not vote for other candidates.

The votes are counted on a simple "for" number. The most "for" votes gets elected.

The notion of eliminating four candidates and voting for the other 25 will have a somewhat opposite effect: candidates you might otherwise choose not to vote for can slide into office on the heels of others. If you feel strongly about, say, eight of the candidates, vote only for those eight.
I think you are misunderstanding how this is supposed to work. You would be correct if we were trying to get one or two people elected, then the optimal strategy would be to vote for only those people.

We are trying to vote someone out, to do that 25 other people need to have more votes than them. So in this instance the optimal strategy is to vote for 25 people and preferably the same 25.

There are 29 names on the ballot so people who want this to work should vote for all but 4 names. The arfcom thread suggests 3 people NOT to vote for, with the 4th as a free choice.
User avatar

Skiprr
Moderator
Posts in topic: 4
Posts: 6458
Joined: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:50 pm
Location: Outskirts of Houston

Re: NRA 2013 election

#9

Post by Skiprr »

O.F.Fascist wrote:
Skiprr wrote: Choose only those candidates you want. Do not vote for other candidates.

The votes are counted on a simple "for" number. The most "for" votes gets elected.

The notion of eliminating four candidates and voting for the other 25 will have a somewhat opposite effect: candidates you might otherwise choose not to vote for can slide into office on the heels of others. If you feel strongly about, say, eight of the candidates, vote only for those eight.
I think you are misunderstanding how this is supposed to work. You would be correct if we were trying to get one or two people elected, then the optimal strategy would be to vote for only those people.

We are trying to vote someone out, to do that 25 other people need to have more votes than them. So in this instance the optimal strategy is to vote for 25 people and preferably the same 25.

There are 29 names on the ballot so people who want this to work should vote for all but 4 names. The arfcom thread suggests 3 people NOT to vote for, with the 4th as a free choice.
I have been an NRA life member for many years; I am now a Patron Member. I am thrilled you became an NRA life member last month. Thank you.

However, I think you are misunderstanding how this is supposed to work.

Voting for NRA Directors is supposed to be about selecting the best people for the job. It's about honor, integrity, intent, belief, work-ethic, and deep personal commitment.

In any board of directors--especially non-profits--Paredo's Law applies: 20% do 80% of the work. I've been on the boards of two non-profits for over nine years.

Flooding votes for all but your disfavored few candidates does nothing but perhaps inadvertently voting in[/u ]some directors you might rail against come three years' time.

Vote for whom you want. You are voting for an NRA board member, not against a specific nominee. The ballot doesn't have an "I don't like him" button. Leave the button blank for those whom you do not want to be an NRA board member.

It's that simple.
Join the NRA or upgrade your membership today. Support the Texas Firearms Coalition and subscribe to the Podcast.
I’ve contacted my State Rep, Gary Elkins, about co-sponsoring HB560. Have you contacted your Rep?
NRA Benefactor Life Member
User avatar

RPBrown
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 5038
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:56 am
Location: Irving, Texas

Re: NRA 2013 election

#10

Post by RPBrown »

Skiprr wrote:
O.F.Fascist wrote:
Skiprr wrote: Choose only those candidates you want. Do not vote for other candidates.

The votes are counted on a simple "for" number. The most "for" votes gets elected.

The notion of eliminating four candidates and voting for the other 25 will have a somewhat opposite effect: candidates you might otherwise choose not to vote for can slide into office on the heels of others. If you feel strongly about, say, eight of the candidates, vote only for those eight.
I think you are misunderstanding how this is supposed to work. You would be correct if we were trying to get one or two people elected, then the optimal strategy would be to vote for only those people.

We are trying to vote someone out, to do that 25 other people need to have more votes than them. So in this instance the optimal strategy is to vote for 25 people and preferably the same 25.

There are 29 names on the ballot so people who want this to work should vote for all but 4 names. The arfcom thread suggests 3 people NOT to vote for, with the 4th as a free choice.
I have been an NRA life member for many years; I am now a Patron Member. I am thrilled you became an NRA life member last month. Thank you.
:iagree:
However, I think you are misunderstanding how this is supposed to work.

Voting for NRA Directors is supposed to be about selecting the best people for the job. It's about honor, integrity, intent, belief, work-ethic, and deep personal commitment.

In any board of directors--especially non-profits--Paredo's Law applies: 20% do 80% of the work. I've been on the boards of two non-profits for over nine years.

Flooding votes for all but your disfavored few candidates does nothing but perhaps inadvertently voting in[/u ]some directors you might rail against come three years' time.

Vote for whom you want. You are voting for an NRA board member, not against a specific nominee. The ballot doesn't have an "I don't like him" button. Leave the button blank for those whom you do not want to be an NRA board member.

It's that simple.

:iagree:
NRA-Benefactor Life member
TSRA-Life member
Image

O.F.Fascist
Member
Posts in topic: 3
Posts: 147
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:04 am
Location: Corpus Christi, TX, United States of America

Re: NRA 2013 election

#11

Post by O.F.Fascist »

Skiprr wrote: Voting for NRA Directors is supposed to be about selecting the best people for the job. It's about honor, integrity, intent, belief, work-ethic, and deep personal commitment.
I would think it would have something to do with what kinds of people we want representing us and fighting for our rights as gun owners. Someone who claims that it is okay for civilians' right to keep and bear to be
artificially restricted to 5 rounds is not someone I want representing me, they are my enemy.
Flooding votes for all but your disfavored few candidates does nothing but perhaps inadvertently voting in[/u ]some directors you might rail against come three years' time.


Perhaps that could be the case, one never knows what the future holds, but that would be another fight for a different day. None of those I am voting for are known to me now as enemies. Regardless of how many I vote for, in this election all but 4 will become board members.

Leave the button blank for those whom you do not want to be an NRA board member.


This I have done.

OldGrumpy
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 298
Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:37 am
Location: DFW Metroplex

Re: NRA 2013 election

#12

Post by OldGrumpy »

No magazine yet and no ballot. Hope everyone else votes in a way that represents me. :waiting: b
Love God, Family, USA, and Texas
Act justly, love mercy, walk humbly with God - Micah 6:8
User avatar

Skiprr
Moderator
Posts in topic: 4
Posts: 6458
Joined: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:50 pm
Location: Outskirts of Houston

Re: NRA 2013 election

#13

Post by Skiprr »

O.F.Fascist, I am extremely pleased you chose to become an NRA life member last month.

As a long-time life member and Patron Member, I offered my knowledge of voting for NRA Board of Director members.

Your mileage may vary.
Join the NRA or upgrade your membership today. Support the Texas Firearms Coalition and subscribe to the Podcast.
I’ve contacted my State Rep, Gary Elkins, about co-sponsoring HB560. Have you contacted your Rep?
NRA Benefactor Life Member
Post Reply

Return to “Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues”