IRS APOLOGIZES FOR TARGETING TEA PARTY GROUPS

[Jaguar]

T. Coleman Andrews was an IRS Commissioner for 3 years. He had the following things to say about income taxes after resigning.

"Congress went beyond merely enacting an income tax law and repealed Article IV of the Bill of Rights, by empowering the tax collector to do the very things from which that article says we were to be secure. It opened up our homes, our papers and our effects to the prying eyes of government agents and set the stage for searches of our books and vaults and for inquiries into our private affairs whenever the tax men might decide, even though there might not be any justification beyond mere cynical suspicion."

"The income tax is bad because it has robbed you and me of the guarantee of privacy and the respect for our property that were given to us in Article IV of the Bill of Rights. This invasion is absolute and complete as far as the amount of tax that can be assessed is concerned. Please remember that under the Sixteenth Amendment, Congress can take 100% of our income anytime it wants to. As a matter of fact, right now it is imposing a tax as high as 91%. This is downright confiscation and cannot be defended on any other grounds."

"The income tax is bad because it was conceived in class hatred, is an instrument of vengeance and plays right into the hands of the communists. It employs the vicious communist principle of taking from each according to his accumulation of the fruits of his labor and giving to others according to their needs, regardless of whether those needs are the result of indolence or lack of pride, self-respect, personal dignity or other attributes of men."

"The income tax is fulfilling the Marxist prophecy that the surest way to destroy a capitalist society is by steeply graduated taxes on income and heavy levies upon the estates of people when they die."

"As matters now stand, if our children make the most of their capabilities and training, they will have to give most of it to the tax collector and so become slaves of the government. People cannot pull themselves up by the bootstraps anymore because the tax collector gets the boots and the straps as well."

"The income tax is bad because it is oppressive to all and discriminates particularly against those people who prove themselves most adept at keeping the wheels of business turning and creating maximum employment and a high standard of living for their fellow men."

"I believe that a better way to raise revenue not only can be found but must be found because I am convinced that the present system is leading us right back to the very tyranny from which those, who established this land of freedom, risked their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to forever free themselves..."

End the IRS!!! - - - http://www.fairtax.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[The Annoyed Man]

IRS asked a pro-life group to provide the IRS with the content of their members' prayers: http://washingtonexaminer.com/congressm ... le/2529924

You just can't make this stuff up. This is so far beyond the pale that it enters the bizarre and surreal. Exactly who do these bureaucratic trolls think they are?

[TexasGal]

They think they are the leftist trolls you fear because they hold positions from which they can destroy at will and that power is what makes their days complete. I can imagine Bloomberg and Feinstein wish they had the power to instill the sinking feeling of dread the average IRS Agent can inflict.

[RoyGBiv]

T. Coleman Andrews was an IRS Commissioner for 3 years. He had the following things to say about income taxes after resigning.

"Congress went beyond merely enacting an income tax law and repealed Article IV of the Bill of Rights, by empowering the tax collector to do the very things from which that article says we were to be secure. It opened up our homes, our papers and our effects to the prying eyes of government agents and set the stage for searches of our books and vaults and for inquiries into our private affairs whenever the tax men might decide, even though there might not be any justification beyond mere cynical suspicion."

"The income tax is bad because it has robbed you and me of the guarantee of privacy and the respect for our property that were given to us in Article IV of the Bill of Rights. This invasion is absolute and complete as far as the amount of tax that can be assessed is concerned. Please remember that under the Sixteenth Amendment, Congress can take 100% of our income anytime it wants to. As a matter of fact, right now it is imposing a tax as high as 91%. This is downright confiscation and cannot be defended on any other grounds."

"The income tax is bad because it was conceived in class hatred, is an instrument of vengeance and plays right into the hands of the communists. It employs the vicious communist principle of taking from each according to his accumulation of the fruits of his labor and giving to others according to their needs, regardless of whether those needs are the result of indolence or lack of pride, self-respect, personal dignity or other attributes of men."

"The income tax is fulfilling the Marxist prophecy that the surest way to destroy a capitalist society is by steeply graduated taxes on income and heavy levies upon the estates of people when they die."

"As matters now stand, if our children make the most of their capabilities and training, they will have to give most of it to the tax collector and so become slaves of the government. People cannot pull themselves up by the bootstraps anymore because the tax collector gets the boots and the straps as well."

"The income tax is bad because it is oppressive to all and discriminates particularly against those people who prove themselves most adept at keeping the wheels of business turning and creating maximum employment and a high standard of living for their fellow men."

"I believe that a better way to raise revenue not only can be found but must be found because I am convinced that the present system is leading us right back to the very tyranny from which those, who established this land of freedom, risked their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to forever free themselves..."

End the IRS!!! - - - http://www.fairtax.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I am newly converted... from Flat tax to fair tax...
I'll be copying this and sharing it... Thanks.

ETA: Full article copy here: http://www.hearliberty.com/usnews2.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[gthaustex]

More interesting details on the issue...I thought about making this a separate thread, but it is really a continuation of the current discussion in this thread.

Apparently, the White House counsel knew about the IGs findings a while back, long before Obama said he knew about them (claiming he found out by watching the news like everyone else). So, are his own people keeping him in the dark on all these matters, or is it more lying and obfuscation? You decide....

The White House's chief lawyer learned weeks ago that an audit of the Internal Revenue Service likely would show that agency employees inappropriately targeted conservative groups, a senior White House official said Sunday.

In the week of April 22, the Office of the White House Counsel and its head, Kathryn Ruemmler, were told by Treasury Department attorneys that an inspector general's report was nearing completion, the White House official said. In that conversation, Ms. Ruemmler learned that "a small number of line IRS employees had improperly scrutinized certain…organizations by using words like 'tea party' and 'patriot,' " the official said.

President Barack Obama said last week he learned about the controversy at the same time as the public, on May 10, when an IRS official revealed it to a conference of lawyers. The president's statement drew criticism, focusing attention on his management style and whether he has kept himself sufficiently informed about the agencies under his authority.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 24260.html
http://www.salon.com/2013/05/20/white_h ... _in_april/

[The Annoyed Man]

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Judge Jeanine Pirro gives Obama a thorough sandblasting. However, his pants are still on fire.

[mojo84]

Stephen Miller, former acting IRS head and current Obama fall guy, is not acting quite so smug and cocky today in front of the Senate Finance committee.

[The Annoyed Man]

Stephen Miller, former acting IRS head and current Obama fall guy, is not acting quite so smug and cocky today in front of the Senate Finance committee.

Is there a live feed somewhere?

[mojo84]

http://www.finance.senate.gov/hearings/ ... 11fc44d504

[mojo84]

Cornyn asked if they apologize to his constituents. Douglas Shulman refused to do so and only offered a "statement of regret". Sorry smug arrogant thugs those running the IRS are.

[RoyGBiv]

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Judge Jeanine Pirro gives Obama a thorough sandblasting. However, his pants are still on fire.

Amen Sister.

[mojo84]

We MAY finally witness some true bipartisanship when dealing with the IRS scandal. It's a shame it happens so rarely.

[The Annoyed Man]

We MAY finally witness some true bipartisanship when dealing with the IRS scandal. It's a shame it happens so rarely.

Maybe, maybe not. I was watching Max Baucus trying to redirect the discussion to an indictment of large conservative orgs, rather than to stay on topic and talk about the actual travesty the IRS perpetrated. Nobody was buying it.

But I will also say that, at least for the part that I watched, I was pretty disappointed with the line of questioning from some of the plainly conservative senators. I heard questions asking whether or not the practice of selectively going after conservative orgs was illegal. The answer? "No." Apparently it is not illegal. It is an administrative violation which could end in the termination of the employee in that position OR from the agency (assuming the agency was actually impartial....it's not, which is demonstrated by the employees' own political track records); but it is NOT a criminal violation. The senator who responded to that stated words to the effect of "we need to pass a law making it illegal," but she would not go so far as to say that there should be prison time for the convicted.

That's the problem.... politicians protect their support inside the ranks of government by making it nearly impossible to throw someone behind bars for the EXACT SAME BEHAVIOR that would put a private citizen in the hoosegow until long after retirement age.

[TexasGal]

Plausible deniability. Like we the people can't figure out the game.

...The White House defended the decision to keep the president in the dark, with press secretary Jay Carney saying Obama was comfortable with the fact that "some matters are not appropriate to convey to him, and this is one of them."...

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/IRS-Pol ... de=138F1-1

[VMI77]

Plausible deniability. Like we the people can't figure out the game.

...The White House defended the decision to keep the president in the dark, with press secretary Jay Carney saying Obama was comfortable with the fact that "some matters are not appropriate to convey to him, and this is one of them."...

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/IRS-Pol ... de=138F1-1

Yeah, that's the way the Mafia does it too.