Russian security to appear at US mass events?

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http://en.mchs.ru/news/item/434203/
In addition, the parties approved of U.S.-Russian cooperation in this field in 2013-2014, which envisages exchange of experience including in monitoring and forecasting emergency situations, training of rescuers, development of mine-rescuing and provision of security at mass events.
Is this what is sounds like?
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Still trying to sort this out. Everything I've read to this point has been very alarmist, but I need more info.
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Well allrighty then.

I hear they got some really great reeducation camps over there in some of the more scenic areas.

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VMI77 wrote:http://en.mchs.ru/news/item/434203/
In addition, the parties approved of U.S.-Russian cooperation in this field in 2013-2014, which envisages exchange of experience including in monitoring and forecasting emergency situations, training of rescuers, development of mine-rescuing and provision of security at mass events.
Is this what is sounds like?
Hard to tell, but it looks to me like it is just the "exchange of experience", meaning you see how the other deals with those situations and see if there are thing done by the other that are better than how you do it. Maybe some cross-training to bring back lessons learned from each other. I don't believe it means that they will be using Russian troops to provide security at US events. But then again I might be wrong.
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JJVP wrote:
VMI77 wrote:http://en.mchs.ru/news/item/434203/
In addition, the parties approved of U.S.-Russian cooperation in this field in 2013-2014, which envisages exchange of experience including in monitoring and forecasting emergency situations, training of rescuers, development of mine-rescuing and provision of security at mass events.
Is this what is sounds like?
Hard to tell, but it looks to me like it is just the "exchange of experience", meaning you see how the other deals with those situations and see if there are thing done by the other that are better than how you do it. Maybe some cross-training to bring back lessons learned from each other. I don't believe it means that they will be using Russian troops to provide security at US events. But then again I might be wrong.
For me, there is a major line to be crossed - or not. I know that foreign troops have been trained in the US for a long time. I've always assumed that training took place on military bases - read this as Federally owned property. I don't have any problem with troops, not in uniform, not in any sort of formation and certainly not armed, attending a US event. If one or more of those parameters is changed, I have a big problem with the situation. One doesn't need to have a uniform on or a gun in their hands to do an information exchange. For the latter, I cannot imagine many places in the US where a US citizen would be allowed OC at an event and there sure is no legitimate reason for a foreign soldier to be given more freedom at that level.
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JJVP wrote:
VMI77 wrote:http://en.mchs.ru/news/item/434203/
In addition, the parties approved of U.S.-Russian cooperation in this field in 2013-2014, which envisages exchange of experience including in monitoring and forecasting emergency situations, training of rescuers, development of mine-rescuing and provision of security at mass events.
Is this what is sounds like?
Hard to tell, but it looks to me like it is just the "exchange of experience", meaning you see how the other deals with those situations and see if there are thing done by the other that are better than how you do it. Maybe some cross-training to bring back lessons learned from each other. I don't believe it means that they will be using Russian troops to provide security at US events. But then again I might be wrong.
I think you can read it that way, but it would be clearer if the word "provision" wasn't there. Then again, it's from a Russian source, and their use of English may not be all that adept.
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Maybe Big Sis is ready to learn a little about real security?
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I've no clue if this is germane, but when I was in the Army we trained alongside many different nationalities.

My best bud was from Columbia.

Some of the other nationalities being trained: Chinese-Danish-Mexican-and others I can no recall...

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NO Russian officials and law enforcement will not be acting as officers, coordinators or any official capacity, but as observers, planners and reviewers of contingency plans for emergency response to disaster conditions, response to mine collapse and how to most efficiently coordinate, plan and execute mass gathering security for public events as well as political events.

We have been told that there have been and will be observers of our training for Military Response to Civil requests for augmentation to disaster response, these people should in my opinion not be allowed to see everything we do same as we shouldn't see everything they do as a matter of OPSEC however nobody asked me what I thought. They do not get to see any of the military training we do but do see and critique our response methods, plans and scenarios to disaster conditions be it natural or man made.

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No one wants to see a repeat of the Munich Olympics. Cooperation between the U.S. and Russia in counter-terrorism activities is directly related to that concern,
Sochi is alarmingly close to Russia's Muslim provinces of Chechnya, Ingushetia and Dagestan, while the North Caucasus region is home to a raging Islamist insurgency, where attacks by militants fuelled by poverty and the ideology of global jihadism are a frequent occurrence
http://www.insidethegames.biz/olympics/ ... 4-security
I for one would not want to see our athletes, or those of any other country, held hostage by terrorists. Nor would I welcome the standard Russian response to terrorist action,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_the ... age_crisis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_sch ... age_crisis
And, there is continued concern that the FSB has run false-flag operations to create openings for military operations in Chechnya, Ossetia, and Dagestan(where the Boston Marathon bomber visited for 6 months).
The place is a snake pit, I believe we should do everything in our power to protect our athletes, press, broadcasters, and the thousands of other U.S. citizens that will be there.
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