texanron wrote:I don't want the hassle or cost of repairing a busted window due to a criminal thinking I might have stuff worth taking because I fly certain themed stickers on my vehicle. Not ashamed of my beliefs either.
Never had a busted window or car theft in 30+ years with an NRA sticker on my cars, I dont live in fear of the bad guys and let them change my life. If they see a NRA sticker, they might pass my car by and go to yours, where they know they wont get shot if the ower get back too soon and finds them in the act. Really you think a bad guy who is going to do a quick smash and grab is really taking the time to look at stickers on your car?
They would be wrong
And, yes, I do. It is a known fact that stickers indicating high-$$$ stereos, specialty electronics, etc are an attractant for thieves.
That's because logically....a car stereo resides in the vehicle. An NRA sticker ONLY denotes support for a certain organization....it doesn't mean I have a gun in my car. If I had an American Medical Association sticker on my vehicle would you necessarily assume I had syringes or drugs in my car?
I really doubt decals weigh heavily on the mind of a thief looking for firearms (in a vehicle). They might serve to point to someone who has them at HOME though.
The concern for vandalism of your vehicle might be valid (some places), but not where I live.
texanron wrote:I don't want the hassle or cost of repairing a busted window due to a criminal thinking I might have stuff worth taking because I fly certain themed stickers on my vehicle. Not ashamed of my beliefs either.
Never had a busted window or car theft in 30+ years with an NRA sticker on my cars, I dont live in fear of the bad guys and let them change my life. If they see a NRA sticker, they might pass my car by and go to yours, where they know they wont get shot if the ower get back too soon and finds them in the act. Really you think a bad guy who is going to do a quick smash and grab is really taking the time to look at stickers on your car?
They would be wrong
And, yes, I do. It is a known fact that stickers indicating high-$$$ stereos, specialty electronics, etc are an attractant for thieves.
That's because logically....a car stereo resides in the vehicle. An NRA sticker ONLY denotes support for a certain organization....it doesn't mean I have a gun in my car. If I had an American Medical Association sticker on my vehicle would you necessarily assume I had syringes or drugs in my car?
I really doubt decals weigh heavily on the mind of a thief looking for firearms (in a vehicle). They might serve to point to someone who has them at HOME though.
The concern for vandalism of your vehicle might be valid (some places), but not where I live.
...you guys still carrying your rifles, shotguns, and bows in window racks over there??? when I lived in La. and ran ETex, that was the norm...you only got called stupid if you left the window cracked 2" , enabling Bocephus or Rastus to run a stick in your barrel and heist your gun out the crack...those were better days!!!
speedsix wrote:...you guys still carrying your rifles, shotguns, and bows in window racks over there??? when I lived in La. and ran ETex, that was the norm...you only got called stupid if you left the window cracked 2" , enabling Bocephus or Rastus to run a stick in your barrel and heist your gun out the crack...those were better days!!!
That must've been one strong stick...
Back on-topic, I don't have any bumper stickers. Not for fear of burglary, but so that if I make a fool and a jerk of myself on the road I don't make the organization I'm supporting look bad.
If I did, though, it'd probably be that one about the snipers.
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gigag04 wrote:Doesn't really seem like a big deal. The bulletin was at least truthful.
Intel types at every organization (including mine) love to find something out, research it and then generate a bulletin for LE.
When I read this I had to chuckle. People always try to find ways to justify their existence. I'm sure the intel people are no exception. They can now point to the bulletin and say, "See? We addressed that!"
As for the story, I really don't see what's wrong with the bulletin. I agree with others that every officer should always assume that every encounter involves weapons until proven otherwise. Far too many officers have died in the line of duty because they believed they were dealing with a law abiding citizens.
The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. James Madison
NRA Life Member Texas Firearms Coalition member
...that's one thing I drilled into my rookies...nice-looking smiling people kill, too...be courteous and respectful to all you meet...and trust noone that hasn't earned it over time...
texanron wrote:I don't want the hassle or cost of repairing a busted window due to a criminal thinking I might have stuff worth taking because I fly certain themed stickers on my vehicle. Not ashamed of my beliefs either.
Never had a busted window or car theft in 30+ years with an NRA sticker on my cars, I dont live in fear of the bad guys and let them change my life. If they see a NRA sticker, they might pass my car by and go to yours, where they know they wont get shot if the ower get back too soon and finds them in the act. Really you think a bad guy who is going to do a quick smash and grab is really taking the time to look at stickers on your car?
I'm glad you have not had your vehicle broken into in 30+ years of having a NRA sticker on your cars. That would be a miscalculation on their part I don't know how a bad guy thinks since I'm not a bad guy.
MasterOfNone wrote:I didn't find the actual message too upsetting. It's not like it warned that the driver would be a crazed gun nut. It is simply an observation that he is more likely to be armed.
Considering the fact that EVERY stop should be treated as armed, how does that sticker change the situation one bit for the officer?
...EVERY reminder that heightens even one officer's awareness and keeps him/her sharp and out of the mundane mindset that uses the "r" word...is worth everyone else having to see/hear it...one more time...when you do the same thing day in and day out, it gets old...and you begin to dull...it takes professional mindset and constant prodding of oneself to stay sharp and alert...even though the Near East mentality fostered this "warning"...it may save ONE life...it's worth the hassle...
alvins wrote:my issue is that police treat everyone like a criminal but then police all whiney babyish when they dont get any respect back.
...my issue with your issue is that a very small FRACTION of a percent of police "treat everyone like a criminal", and then some people lump all the others in with them...a good rule of thumb BOTH ways is to treat the man you meet with the respect you'd like him to treat you with...then see how things happen from there, and adjust your attitude accordingly...painters are drunks, too...but FAR from ALL painters...
alvins wrote:my issue is that police treat everyone like a criminal but then police all whiney babyish when they dont get any respect back.
...my issue with your issue is that a very small FRACTION of a percent of police "treat everyone like a criminal", and then some people lump all the others in with them...a good rule of thumb BOTH ways is to treat the man you meet with the respect you'd like him to treat you with...then see how things happen from there, and adjust your attitude accordingly...painters are drunks, too...but FAR from ALL painters...
So its not a state issued decal which is what I thought when I first opened the thread. The article is about the warning of officers that they are about to encounter a patriot...
On a side note I think that this, as well as aforementioned bumper stickers increases the likelyhood of your car being broken into...I dunno.
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I have nothing but the utmost repsect for law enforcement officers (both my dad and my maternal grandfather are former cops), but I do think that this is kind of silly. It makes perfect sense from a tactical perspective to assume a "worst-case" scenario involving an armed and potentially-hostile subject; it's also not unreasonable to expect that anyone, hostile or not, might be armed because of, you know, that whole Second Amendment thing. Unless state law or municipal ordinances explicitly forbid all transportation of firearms by car or something (which they could, I guess, I don't know)....
Again, I respect the fact that police officers put their lives on the line every day in order to protect us, but when it comes down to it, they're just like everyone else: some of them are decent people, and some of them are... let's employ a 9-year-old-daughter-appropriate euphemism and call them "jerks." I've run into enough the latter to make me wary of official notifications that I might be a gun-toting psycho (when most of them already assume by default that I'm a drug dealer and/or car thief). I'm probably being overly sensitive, but it seems to me that "that sticker refers to the Second Amendment" might have been a slightly more reasonable answer to the questions that they'd fielded than "that sticker means that the owner of the vehicle may or may not try to shoot you." I've run into a couple of local guys who wouldn't need any more than that to use as probable cause for a vehicle search.
lol alright