Open holster lunch at daughter's school.

[Ambassador]

So.... Did you talk with her again later?

No, nobody else approached me. We've been debating emailing her because we don't want anyone at the school thinking we're just insensitive to the issue, but we just don't know what we would say or if it would make matters worse.

When our daughter got home, we made a point to ask her if any of her friends saw the holster or said anything about it. She said no. My impression is it annoyed a couple teachers and none of the kids even noticed or cared. I can't help feeling like I did something inappropriate, but at the same time feel like the vice principle made an issue out of nothing.

[TreyHouston]

So.... Did you talk with her again later?

No, nobody else approached me. We've been debating emailing her because we don't want anyone at the school thinking we're just insensitive to the issue, but we just don't know what we would say or if it would make matters worse.

When our daughter got home, we made a point to ask her if any of her friends saw the holster or said anything about it. She said no. My impression is it annoyed a couple teachers and none of the kids even noticed or cared. I can't help feeling like I did something inappropriate, but at the same time feel like the vice principle made an issue out of nothing.

Call and ask the real principal or superintendent. You should get a clear answer! Let us know what they say. If it were me, i want to talk with the boss, not the "shift leader"

[TreyHouston]

Sounds about illegal as OC a holster into a 51% location or courthouse...

OP, how dare you follow the law to the letter!

I carried an emply holster into jury duty! Security asked me if I was a LEO, i said "no", looked at me funny and waved me through. No problems. (Didnt get picked for the case )

[mojo84]

Troll.



I hope.

Ya think?

21 posts. One post in the "General Texas CHL Form" having to do with self-defense insurance, one in this thread about display of empty holsters at a grammar school under the "Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues" forum, and 19 posts in a thread about Open Carry at the Texas State Fair in the "Open-Carry Discussions" forum. This thread has a distinctive whiff of a "They Who Shall Not be Named" flavor, with some open-carry overtones.

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I don't think it was me he was referring to as a troll. I don't know what shall not name group you're referring to, but I don't belong to any gun organizations. I had to open and switch to this user name after my other got locked for unknown reasons. Previously, I was "So Confused" here.

This was you? http://www.texaschlforum.com/search.php ... 8&sr=posts

[casp625]

Sounds about illegal as OC a holster into a 51% location or courthouse...

OP, how dare you follow the law to the letter!

I carried an emply holster into jury duty! Security asked me if I was a LEO, i said "no", looked at me funny and waved me through. No problems. (Didnt get picked for the case )

Every time I go to the court house I CC my holster and don't have any issues either.

[nightmare69]

You weren't doing anything wrong but they could have asked you to leave. From what I've been told by a fellow officer who is a SRO, they can tell you to leave for any reason, or no reason at all. Then later you can hack it out with the school or in court.

I reminded of a a woman who was visiting her middle school age son with her infant baby and decided to pull out her breast and feed the baby in the middle of the lunch room. She legally didn't do anything wrong but she was told to leave the property by the principle.

[WTR]

Depending on what you carry and how you carry it, I think it would have been wiser to remove your weapon in the holstered condition. This would have avoided the need to unholster and reholster your weapon.

[Ambassador]

Troll.



I hope.

Ya think?

21 posts. One post in the "General Texas CHL Form" having to do with self-defense insurance, one in this thread about display of empty holsters at a grammar school under the "Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues" forum, and 19 posts in a thread about Open Carry at the Texas State Fair in the "Open-Carry Discussions" forum. This thread has a distinctive whiff of a "They Who Shall Not be Named" flavor, with some open-carry overtones.

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I don't think it was me he was referring to as a troll. I don't know what shall not name group you're referring to, but I don't belong to any gun organizations. I had to open and switch to this user name after my other got locked for unknown reasons. Previously, I was "So Confused" here.

This was you? http://www.texaschlforum.com/search.php ... 8&sr=posts

Yessir. You'll notice partway through the thread where "So Confused" stops and I pickup.

[Ambassador]

You weren't doing anything wrong but they could have asked you to leave. From what I've been told by a fellow officer who is a SRO, they can tell you to leave for any reason, or no reason at all. Then later you can hack it out with the school or in court.

I reminded of a a woman who was visiting her middle school age son with her infant baby and decided to pull out her breast and feed the baby in the middle of the lunch room. She legally didn't do anything wrong but she was told to leave the property by the principle.

Thanks! This is exactly what I was trying to determine. So, I lied about my relationship to you, but here's what I just emailed to the vice principal. I also copied the principal...

Hey, [vice principal].

Despite our difference in ideology concerning firearm sensitivities, I did enjoy meeting you today.

I was definitely caught off guard since I've never dealt with this particular issue, so I sought information from a law enforcement officer friend to be on the safe side. I copied his response below for your reference and utilization in the future.

In light of this information, in the future I will either remove the holster along with my weapon, or conceal the holster while on premises.

Take care,
[Ambassador] ([daughter] Dad)

"You weren't doing anything wrong but they could have asked you to leave. From what I've been told by a fellow officer who is a SRO, they can tell you to leave for any reason, or no reason at all. Then later you can hack it out with the school or in court.

I reminded of a a woman who was visiting her middle school age son with her infant baby and decided to pull out her breast and feed the baby in the middle of the lunch room. She legally didn't do anything wrong but she was told to leave the property by the principle."

[Ambassador]

Depending on what you carry and how you carry it, I think it would have been wiser to remove your weapon in the holstered condition. This would have avoided the need to unholster and reholster your weapon.

You make a good point. I'm much more likely to shoot myself holstering/unholstering than I am to save my own life because of the extra muscle memory from doing such.

But I get so lazy! I carry appendix, but I hear that femoral thingy isn't as important as people once thought.

[nightmare69]

You weren't doing anything wrong but they could have asked you to leave. From what I've been told by a fellow officer who is a SRO, they can tell you to leave for any reason, or no reason at all. Then later you can hack it out with the school or in court.

I reminded of a a woman who was visiting her middle school age son with her infant baby and decided to pull out her breast and feed the baby in the middle of the lunch room. She legally didn't do anything wrong but she was told to leave the property by the principle.

Thanks! This is exactly what I was trying to determine. So, I lied about my relationship to you, but here's what I just emailed to the vice principal. I also copied the principal...

Hey, [vice principal].

Despite our difference in ideology concerning firearm sensitivities, I did enjoy meeting you today.

I was definitely caught off guard since I've never dealt with this particular issue, so I sought information from a law enforcement officer friend to be on the safe side. I copied his response below for your reference and utilization in the future.

In light of this information, in the future I will either remove the holster along with my weapon, or conceal the holster while on premises.

Take care,
[Ambassador] ([daughter] Dad)

"You weren't doing anything wrong but they could have asked you to leave. From what I've been told by a fellow officer who is a SRO, they can tell you to leave for any reason, or no reason at all. Then later you can hack it out with the school or in court.

I reminded of a a woman who was visiting her middle school age son with her infant baby and decided to pull out her breast and feed the baby in the middle of the lunch room. She legally didn't do anything wrong but she was told to leave the property by the principle."

Just remember that I'm not an attorney. If I was half as smart as they are I would have picked a profession with better pay. If you want true legal advice, ask a lawyer. My understanding is schools reserve the right to ask any visitor to leave for any reason.

[Ambassador]

You weren't doing anything wrong but they could have asked you to leave. From what I've been told by a fellow officer who is a SRO, they can tell you to leave for any reason, or no reason at all. Then later you can hack it out with the school or in court.

I reminded of a a woman who was visiting her middle school age son with her infant baby and decided to pull out her breast and feed the baby in the middle of the lunch room. She legally didn't do anything wrong but she was told to leave the property by the principle.

Thanks! This is exactly what I was trying to determine. So, I lied about my relationship to you, but here's what I just emailed to the vice principal. I also copied the principal...

Hey, [vice principal].

Despite our difference in ideology concerning firearm sensitivities, I did enjoy meeting you today.

I was definitely caught off guard since I've never dealt with this particular issue, so I sought information from a law enforcement officer friend to be on the safe side. I copied his response below for your reference and utilization in the future.

In light of this information, in the future I will either remove the holster along with my weapon, or conceal the holster while on premises.

Take care,
[Ambassador] ([daughter] Dad)

"You weren't doing anything wrong but they could have asked you to leave. From what I've been told by a fellow officer who is a SRO, they can tell you to leave for any reason, or no reason at all. Then later you can hack it out with the school or in court.

I reminded of a a woman who was visiting her middle school age son with her infant baby and decided to pull out her breast and feed the baby in the middle of the lunch room. She legally didn't do anything wrong but she was told to leave the property by the principle."

Just remember that I'm not an attorney. If I was half as smart as they are I would have picked a profession with better pay. If you want true legal advice, ask a lawyer. My understanding is schools reserve the right to ask any visitor to leave for any reason.

Of course, I'm just playing it safe. I have great attorneys, but I would never think of bothering them with something petty like this. Thanks again.

[WTR]

But I get so lazy! I carry appendix, but I hear that femoral thingy isn't as important as people once thought.

My roommate saw a person bleed out from a femoral severed thingy.....took him about 20 seconds to drop and died before an ambulance arrived.

[tms119]

I have no issue with the holster. But I did want to clarify that in some places, while the school is public , it is also considered private property. So school admin can ask a person to leave and even have them sign a trespass warning that would block them from coming onto school grounds.

I don't know if all school districts are like that but I can tell you that some are.

I am not a lawyer....figure I should throw that in there to be safe lol