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Imagine a world without guns ...
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:31 am
by seamusTX
Location: Indianapolis
A Northwestside fight involving a sword early this morning left three people stabbed, one of them dead and one under arrest for attempted murder.
Christopher O. Rondeau, 39, is being held on preliminary murder charges at the medical holding facility at Wishard Memorial Hospital. He was arrested by the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department after a fight at 5259 N. Raceway Rd. Rondeau was in stable condition.
The fight was reported about 1 a.m. today. Rondeau and Adolf Stegbauer, 69, both of Indianapolis, were “actively involved in a sword fight,” IMPD spokesman Sgt. Matt Mount said in a statement. One man used what police described as a World War II Japanese officer’s sword and another had a thin blade sword, although investigators were not immediately certain which weapon was used by which man.
Preliminary reports from police said that Franziska Stegbauer, 77, Indianapolis, tried to break up the fight and was fatally stabbed. Police found all three victims[?] inside the residence on Raceway Road when they arrived early this morning.
An autopsy performed today has determined that a stab wound from a sword was the cause of death.
Adolf Stegbauer was taken to surgery at Wishard, and was reported in serious condition this afternoon.
Police said Rondeau was Franziska Stegbauer’s grandson.
Police do not know how the fight started or who stabbed Stegbauer, Mount said.
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Indianapolis Metro Police say a 77-year-old woman who tried to break up a sword fight between her grandson and brother-in-law died of the stab wounds she sustained.
Franziska Stegbauer was attempting to break up the fight between 69-year-old Adolf Stegbauer and 39-year-old Chris Rondeau in the 5200 block of North Raceway early Thursday morning.
IMPD Sgt. Matt Mount says officials will wait for further tests to determine who delivered the fatal blow to the woman before making any arrests on murder charges.
Rondeau has been arrested for attempted murder for the wounds he inflicted upon Adolf Stegbauer. Adolf remains in critical condition.
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- Jim
Re: Imagine a world without guns ...
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:41 am
by G.A. Heath
In the end there can be only one ...
Sorry, couldn't resist. Ban guns people will turn to swords and knives. Ban those and people will turn to bats and golf clubs. Ban those and people will turn to pointy rocks and sticks.
Re: Imagine a world without guns ...
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:48 am
by seamusTX
Don't forget boomerangs and similar projectile weapons, ropes, nets, ...
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Metal swords were invented about 2,500 years ago. Firearms in their most primitive forms about 500. For most of human history, men have been wreaking mayhem with their bare hands and sharpened rocks and sticks.
- Jim
Re: Imagine a world without guns ...
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:51 am
by Lodge2004
Imagine a world without guns ... a place where size, strength and/or agressive behavior rules the day. No thanks.
Re: Imagine a world without guns ...
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:13 am
by dewayneward
by G.A. Heath » Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:41 am
In the end there can be only one ...
Ah, I see we have a Highlander fan!!!!!!! That was what I was thinking too as I read the article.
When I talk to anti's, they just surprise me with the level of buffoonary. Removing guns wont solve the issue, it just changes what people will try to kill you with.
Re: Imagine a world without guns ...
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:58 pm
by boomerang
It's easy to imagine, especially if you have seen movies like 300, Gladiator, Ben Hur, Richard V, Ran, etc.
Or this week let's consider the slavery in The Ten Comandments as another possible outcome in a world without guns.
Re: Imagine a world without guns ...
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:03 am
by seamusTX
Mr. Stegbauer is reported to have died of his injuries yesterday.
- Jim
Re: Imagine a world without guns ...
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:32 pm
by seamusTX
Port St. Lucie, Florida -- On Thursday, a 23-year-old man threatened his mother with a 3-foot sword. When the woman called 911, the man cut off the phone. He was arrested and charged with felony aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and felony tampering with witness and hindering communication to a law enforcement officer.
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- Jim
Re: Imagine a world without guns ...
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:31 pm
by Reloader
Very quiet..and VERY DANGEROUS!!!!!!!
Re: Imagine a world without guns ...
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:49 pm
by bryang
Man, this is crazy...what's with all the swords!?
I just REALLY do not care for knife fights. But if I had to be in one, however, I do think a sword would be better.
A world without guns...what a horrible though.
-geo
Re: Imagine a world without guns ...
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:09 pm
by joe817
"Imagine a world without guns ..."
Simply put, I'd rather not.
Re: Imagine a world without guns ...
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:53 am
by LarryH
joe817 wrote:"Imagine a world without guns ..."
Simply put, I'd rather not.
Yeah. It's called the Middle Ages.
Re: Imagine a world without guns ...
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:52 am
by stevie_d_64
Isn't this the Stephen King novel he is writing that he keeps locked up in a lower drawer of his desk???
So scary he cannot finish it???
All kidding aside...This is certainly a frightening trend...
Re: Imagine a world without guns ...
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:34 pm
by ClarkLZeuss
"Imagine a world without guns ..."
We had that, once. But it didn't matter. Cain still killed Abel, and they probably didn't even have weapons. Cain probably just strangled him.
Re: Imagine a world without guns ...
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:11 am
by seamusTX
In Seattle, Monday, June 1, a 24-year-old woman used a
fork to rob two female pedestrians. The robber and two male accomplices were arrested a short time later. One of the men was a convicted bank robber.
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- Jim