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NEW YORK (March 13) -- In coffee shops -- and at least one bar -- people fed up with the Tea Party movement gathered Saturday to discuss issues and launch what they call the Coffee Party.
Inspired by a late February rant on the Facebook page of Annabel Park, the Coffee Party (not limited to coffee drinkers alone) declared March 13 National Coffee Party Day, and on the group's Web site invited individuals to organize in coffee shops across the country in hopes of eventually growing into an influential political movement.
Park -- a documentarian and former Obama volunteer -- said in a video on her Web site that she wants to "stop the shouting" and replace "obstructionism" with action.
"Their name is brilliant," said Ann Morris, "because it captures patriotism."
Morris, a psychologist, was one of the 20 people who gathered at the Bleecker Street Bar in Manhattan Saturday.
Coffee, Morris noted, became America's beverage of choice after the tax revolt that is now known as the Boston Tea Party.
Morris usually leaves the city every weekend for her upstate home. She chose to stay, rather than make her usual journey, because she is concerned the Tea Party movement is growing too influential. "[They] are not interested in discourse," she said. "They think different than we do."
The Bleecker Street Coffee Party meeting was originally scheduled to meet at the NoHo Star, an eatery that serves coffee. The gathering had to shift to a bar next door because the crowd was too large.
Organizer Amanda Martinez chose to hold the event near New York University in the hope of attracting young people. The Tea Party, she said is populated "by a lot of older people."
On that measure, Martinez was disappointed. Only a few of the attendees appeared to be under 50.
As the meeting began, Martinez read Coffee Party "ground rules," asking participants to "listen and respect everybody's opinion." Then, participants broke into groups of five or six to talk about the issues that concerned them most.
Anne Miller told her group that campaign finance reform is key. "To me," said Miller, "that's the most important issue. We've got to get money out of campaigns."
Bob Pargament, a hypnotist from Harrison, N.Y., drove more than 40 miles through heavy rain and wind to attend. He said he "is concerned about the shift to the right" and the "know-nothing mentality bent on shutting down and interrupting the debate needed in a democracy."
Citing what he sees as a growing anti-science movement across the country, Pargament said "it's time to start thinking like 21st century citizens."
Also among the participants was a gentleman who identified himself only as Tyler, an anthropologist who says he's been studying the Tea Party movement for months.
In group conversation, Tyler asked fellow members how they felt about taxes -- an issue at the heart of the Tea Party fervor. The others agreed taxes were important to them as well.
Lamar Bennett, a university researcher from Brooklyn, who describes himself as being from the left wing of the Democratic party, pointed out that "while everyone wants lower taxes, everyone wants services, too." Everyone in that group nodded their heads in agreement.
Jean Stevens, a writer also from Brooklyn, said she felt after the campaign of 2008 that too many Obama supporters sat back and waited for him "to do all the work." Stevens says she now realizes that she and others will need to do more if they want to see the change they voted for in the last presidential election.
Martinez said the gathering produced a wide spectrum of opinions. "Everything from no government to the government is the people," she said.
Martinez agreed with the sentiment that Obama supporters had grown complacent, but she remains hopeful.
"Things will happen," Martinez said. "Obama is staying behind the curtain and when the time is right he's going to mobilize his army and get it done."
"It was great," Stevens said as she got up to leave, calling the day inspiring and hopeful.
"People are concerned," she said. "They want to break the logjam."
But when asked if she might take the lead and organize a future Coffee Party gathering in Brooklyn, she said, "I don't know."
Inspired by a late February rant on the Facebook page of Annabel Park, the Coffee Party (not limited to coffee drinkers alone) declared March 13 National Coffee Party Day, and on the group's Web site invited individuals to organize in coffee shops across the country in hopes of eventually growing into an influential political movement.
Park -- a documentarian and former Obama volunteer -- said in a video on her Web site that she wants to "stop the shouting" and replace "obstructionism" with action.
"Their name is brilliant," said Ann Morris, "because it captures patriotism."
Morris, a psychologist, was one of the 20 people who gathered at the Bleecker Street Bar in Manhattan Saturday.
Coffee, Morris noted, became America's beverage of choice after the tax revolt that is now known as the Boston Tea Party.
Morris usually leaves the city every weekend for her upstate home. She chose to stay, rather than make her usual journey, because she is concerned the Tea Party movement is growing too influential. "[They] are not interested in discourse," she said. "They think different than we do."
The Bleecker Street Coffee Party meeting was originally scheduled to meet at the NoHo Star, an eatery that serves coffee. The gathering had to shift to a bar next door because the crowd was too large.
Organizer Amanda Martinez chose to hold the event near New York University in the hope of attracting young people. The Tea Party, she said is populated "by a lot of older people."
On that measure, Martinez was disappointed. Only a few of the attendees appeared to be under 50.
As the meeting began, Martinez read Coffee Party "ground rules," asking participants to "listen and respect everybody's opinion." Then, participants broke into groups of five or six to talk about the issues that concerned them most.
Anne Miller told her group that campaign finance reform is key. "To me," said Miller, "that's the most important issue. We've got to get money out of campaigns."
Bob Pargament, a hypnotist from Harrison, N.Y., drove more than 40 miles through heavy rain and wind to attend. He said he "is concerned about the shift to the right" and the "know-nothing mentality bent on shutting down and interrupting the debate needed in a democracy."
Citing what he sees as a growing anti-science movement across the country, Pargament said "it's time to start thinking like 21st century citizens."
Also among the participants was a gentleman who identified himself only as Tyler, an anthropologist who says he's been studying the Tea Party movement for months.
In group conversation, Tyler asked fellow members how they felt about taxes -- an issue at the heart of the Tea Party fervor. The others agreed taxes were important to them as well.
Lamar Bennett, a university researcher from Brooklyn, who describes himself as being from the left wing of the Democratic party, pointed out that "while everyone wants lower taxes, everyone wants services, too." Everyone in that group nodded their heads in agreement.
Jean Stevens, a writer also from Brooklyn, said she felt after the campaign of 2008 that too many Obama supporters sat back and waited for him "to do all the work." Stevens says she now realizes that she and others will need to do more if they want to see the change they voted for in the last presidential election.
Martinez said the gathering produced a wide spectrum of opinions. "Everything from no government to the government is the people," she said.
Martinez agreed with the sentiment that Obama supporters had grown complacent, but she remains hopeful.
"Things will happen," Martinez said. "Obama is staying behind the curtain and when the time is right he's going to mobilize his army and get it done."
"It was great," Stevens said as she got up to leave, calling the day inspiring and hopeful.
"People are concerned," she said. "They want to break the logjam."
But when asked if she might take the lead and organize a future Coffee Party gathering in Brooklyn, she said, "I don't know."
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Its a turf organization. It won't last long, or make any meaningful impact at all. We never would have heard of it at all if it wasn't for the MSM.
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Does this mean the Libertarians will start a "Caffeine-Free Movement"? Wonder what that'll be like?
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I like that......joe817 wrote:Does this mean the Libertarians will start a "Caffeine-Free Movement"? Wonder what that'll be like?
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On a more serious note one guy in the article says, Obama is staying behind his curtain and when the time is right he will mobilize his army and get it done.
I say to that, bring it on DUDE this has been a long time coming, cant freaking wait.
I say to that, bring it on DUDE this has been a long time coming, cant freaking wait.
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Yep. His army wears blue helmets and body armor.texas1234 wrote:On a more serious note one guy in the article says, Obama is staying behind his curtain and when the time is right he will mobilize his army and get it done.
I say to that, bring it on DUDE this has been a long time coming, cant freaking wait.
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"the wun" hasn't been behind any curtain that I can tell.... he's been on my stinking TV every darned day for the last two and a half years, and still campaigning as if the election is next week.
This group of pointy headed liberals will last about as long as Tom Daschel's radio show did, or maybe have as much following as Algore's now defunct radio network did. They just don't believe that us small minded little people can really think rationally for ourselves. And, I would bet that no matter how much the MSM might try to give them free promotion it will still be a flop. Lib's fracture into too many little half baked opinion groups to organize, uhless they have really large funding by the likes of George Soros.
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This group of pointy headed liberals will last about as long as Tom Daschel's radio show did, or maybe have as much following as Algore's now defunct radio network did. They just don't believe that us small minded little people can really think rationally for ourselves. And, I would bet that no matter how much the MSM might try to give them free promotion it will still be a flop. Lib's fracture into too many little half baked opinion groups to organize, uhless they have really large funding by the likes of George Soros.
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Correct you are sir. And if this keeps up this will move beyond coffee shops and tea partys. American is America for a reason and there are still a lot of us left that want our liberty and freedom. Our forefathers, Great Grandfathers, Grandfathers, and Fathers died for it and this former Marine served for it, and I will not have served in vein nor will my Father who spent several years in Vietnam who was spit on by these cowards running this counry. America is standing up and when that day happens those cowards sitting in coffee shops will run like the pukes they are. They can have all the common respect and " compassionate dialog" they want but this will not stand. Folks this is out of control!
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I can no longer tell parodies from actual political news.
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Hey Texas1234 - you're a man after my own heart! My sentiments exactly.
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Very calm, I should imagine...joe817 wrote:Does this mean the Libertarians will start a "Caffeine-Free Movement"? Wonder what that'll be like?
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I must be really dumb, because I'm not getting that one at all. I don't seem to remember coffee being an issue aboard British ships in Boston harbor. Someone will just have to explain that one to this dumb redneck."Their name is brilliant," said Ann Morris, "because it captures patriotism."
Coffee, Morris noted, became America's beverage of choice after the tax revolt that is now known as the Boston Tea Party.
They're missing the whole point of the Tea Party movement, then and now, which was taxes. Coffee drinking was a way of saying, "we'll drink coffee... ...as long as we have to pay taxes on tea!" Another idiot misunderstanding of the lessons of history.
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mr surveyor wrote:"the wun" hasn't been behind any curtain that I can tell.... he's been on my stinking TV every darned day for the last two and a half years, and still campaigning as if the election is next week.
This group of pointy headed liberals will last about as long as Tom Daschel's radio show did, or maybe have as much following as Algore's now defunct radio network did. They just don't believe that us small minded little people can really think rationally for ourselves. And, I would bet that no matter how much the MSM might try to give them free promotion it will still be a flop. Lib's fracture into too many little half baked opinion groups to organize, uhless they have really large funding by the likes of George Soros.
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What did you expect. They're socialists.The Annoyed Man wrote:They're missing the whole point of the Tea Party movement, then and now, which was taxes. Coffee drinking was a way of saying, "we'll drink coffee... ...as long as we have to pay taxes on tea!" Another idiot misunderstanding of the lessons of history.
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