TABC Proposed Rule Change and Impact on Guns Shows and Gun O

[MoJo]

From TSRA If this is put into effect we will take a huge step backwards.


Texas State Rifle Association



Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission on Firearms

Dear Graves,


State agencies, such at the TABC, are tasked with creating operational rules within compliance with state law. On occasion agency rules are reviewed and updated to track current law. In this case current law has not changed.


Two weeks ago, TSRA was alerted to a rule revision within TABC rule 36.1 firearms. At first reading the proposed changes appeared to be simply "not good" but concern grew with every subsequent reading.

Phone calls to the agency, requesting clarification, have not been encouraging.


The changes deal with locations, private and public, with a TABC license or permit to sell alcohol, regardless of whether alcohol is sold or consumed. . .


Without question the proposed changes as written could have a devastating effect on gun shows and to various fundraising events such as FONRA, DU, TSRA Foundation and many others.


Your group will not be immune even if you own your own building. If a TABC license is on the premises or you hire a caterer with a TABC license, the rules will apply to you and to your event.


A copy of the proposed rules can be found here.


I urge you to review the rules, determine how they will negatively impact your local gun show or a fundraising event at your gun club, fraternal organization, or political group. Remember this impacts us all.


Comments in writing can be directed to Martin Wilson, Assistant General Counsel, PO Box 13127, Austin, Texas 78711-3127 or by FAX to 512-206-3280. Comments may also be submitted electronically through the Commission's public website.
http://www.tabc.state.tx.us" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Additionally, TABC attorneys and staff will conduct a public hearing on Tuesday, August 19th, at 1:30 p.m. in the Commission meeting room at TABC headquarters, located at 5806 Mesa in Austin.


Remember these are "proposed rules", not yet adopted.


Texas gun owners need your help.
TSRA needs your help




The House and Senate Committees with TABC oversight have been alerted but we'd like to stop the rules here and now.

Thanks for your attention.

Keep the faith.


Alice Tripp
Texas State Rifle Association
Legislative Director
Agtripp@aol.com

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[CleverNickname]

Does anyone have a different copy of the linked PDF file? Something's up with the TABC website and the PDF download won't finish.

[MoJo]

Does anyone have a different copy of the linked PDF file? Something's up with the TABC website and the PDF download won't finish.

I changed it but if it still doesn't work try this: http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/laws/other/36.1.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[sjfcontrol]

Nope, still doesn't work. And the TSRA notice had zero details about what they were complaining about, just that it was bad.

[MoJo]

Nope, still doesn't work. And the TSRA notice had zero details about what they were complaining about, just that it was bad.

PM sent.

[MoJo]

Does anyone have a different copy of the linked PDF file? Something's up with the TABC website and the PDF download won't finish.

PM sent

[sjfcontrol]

Nope, still doesn't work. And the TSRA notice had zero details about what they were complaining about, just that it was bad.

PM sent.

Just barely started reading it, but wonder how this might affect Frisco Gun Club, that has a bar on the premesis of their gun range.

[sjfcontrol]

Why not just post it here other than sending PMs?

[Rex B]

A TSRA mass email and 7 posts here, and no one has mentioned what the problem is ????

That's too much like a teaser.


Well, I can't download it either. Maybe TSRA's idea was to have their 10,000(?) members all hit the site and crash it as a protest.
If so, it's working.

[Rex B]

Alice sent a 2nd email with a little more information:

Today as I was sending out an alert to members, TABC posted a press release with a link on their home page at (http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The release includes the before and after language of what the agency seeks to accomplish with the changes. Below is an excerpt:

"TABC is proposing changes that would allow alcohol service to continue throughout the gun show if certain requirements are met. Under the proposed change, there must be a written agreement approved by the commission 30 days prior to the gun show and the agreement includes the following:

(A) a requirement that prohibits live ammunition in the building or the facility where the licensed premises is located;

(B) a requirement that firearms be disabled and not readily convertible for use; and

(C) a requirement that prohibits the delivery of any firearm inside the building or facility where the licensed premises is located."

At the bottom of the press release you'll find contact information including: mail and fax information for TABC as well as an email address for Carolyn Beck, TABC's communication director.
Although less clear, you'll notice similar rules do apply to "fund raising events".

So I guess this is for gun shows where a vendor is selling alcohol on the premises?
I don't recall alcohol being an issue at a gun show anywhere, unless I missed the story.

[The Annoyed Man]

Try this one: http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/laws/gun_ru ... ussion.asp

[howdy]

Here is a Houston Chronicle article about this with a different spin...

http://www.chron.com/news/texas/article ... 677680.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[G.A. Heath]

Perhaps it is time that we strengthen preemption so that state agencies can not enact gun control measures without the state legislature voting to approve those rules...

[sjfcontrol]

From that article...

"We got a request from a gun club in the Dallas-Fort Worth area to amend the rules," said agency spokeswoman Carolyn Beck.

Frisco Gun Club? Just a guess.

[jimlongley]

Perhaps it is time that we strengthen preemption so that state agencies can not enact gun control measures without the state legislature voting to approve those rules...

Yup. what happens when we allow agencies to pass laws.