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SCOTUS criminalizes guns in car if in post office parking lot

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:21 am
by imkopaka
http://bearingarms.com/scotus-goes-post ... arry-guns/
The Supreme Court has apparently gone postal, and has decided that you do not have the right to bear arms in the Post Office, or even lock up your gun in the parking lot of postal facilities.
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The justices on Monday let stand an appeals court ruling that said the Second Amendment right to bear arms does not extend to government buildings or the parking areas that serve them.

Good thing Texas law already protects us in parking lots, eh? :txflag:

Re: SCOTUS criminalizes guns in car if in post office parking lot

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:25 am
by anygunanywhere
All three branches of the national government are stomping on the constitution.

Re: SCOTUS criminalizes guns in car if in post office parking lot

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:28 am
by The Annoyed Man
anygunanywhere wrote:All three branches of the national government are stomping on the constitution.
Gov't "rightly" fears any document which limits its own power; so naturally, whenever given the chance to limit the scope of the document, it will do so. It must be resisted in those efforts.

Re: SCOTUS criminalizes guns in car if in post office parking lot

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:32 am
by gdanaher
When I was first licensed about 20 years ago, the topic of post office carry was covered. It was illegal then as it is now. Nothing new here. Might not like it, but the policy hasn't changed in some time.

Re: SCOTUS criminalizes guns in car if in post office parking lot

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:36 am
by anygunanywhere
gdanaher wrote:When I was first licensed about 20 years ago, the topic of post office carry was covered. It was illegal then as it is now. Nothing new here. Might not like it, but the policy hasn't changed in some time.
True, but the SCOTUS affirming infringements is proof of tyranny from all three branches. SCOTUS is supposed to interpret law based on the original intent of the Constitution and BOR. Anyone who goes about their day expecting Constitutional government from DC is delusional.

Re: SCOTUS criminalizes guns in car if in post office parking lot

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:46 am
by philip964
This may have more to do with the current 4/4 tie we have in the SCOTUS, than anything else.

Re: SCOTUS criminalizes guns in car if in post office parking lot

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:50 am
by parabelum
Before the smoking thin man leaves the WH, we will have more infringements on our Freedoms.

They can't (or won't) keep people safe from ISIS barbarians, but they sure can stick it to the law abiding American Citizens, as this recent dictatorial usurpation by SCOTUS only applies to one group of people.

ACLU, you criminal cowards. Where are you on this one???

Re: SCOTUS criminalizes guns in car if in post office parking lot

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:52 am
by TangoX-ray
parabelum wrote:ACLU, you criminal cowards. Where are you on this one???
Their Bill of Rights goes 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.

Re: SCOTUS criminalizes guns in car if in post office parking lot

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:03 am
by gdanaher
Blame Nixon folks. The no weapons at the post office was enacted in 1972.

Re: SCOTUS criminalizes guns in car if in post office parking lot

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:13 am
by MikeyJ
imkopaka wrote:
Good thing Texas law already protects us in parking lots, eh? :txflag:
Federal law trumps state law. So the federal ban on guns in the parking lot of a post office trumps the state law definition of "premise", which does not include a parking lot.

Re: SCOTUS criminalizes guns in car if in post office parking lot

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:17 am
by Soccerdad1995
The Annoyed Man wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:All three branches of the national government are stomping on the constitution.
Gov't "rightly" fears any document which limits its own power; so naturally, whenever given the chance to limit the scope of the document, it will do so. It must be resisted in those efforts.
Too bad that the 2nd amendment only protects the right to hunt [sarcasm alert]. It would be nice if we actually had the means to resist an over zealous government.

Re: SCOTUS criminalizes guns in car if in post office parking lot

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:24 am
by Soccerdad1995
What essential public need requires that weapons be kept out of a parking lot in front of the Post Office? Surely, this must be a compelling national security priority for it to counter one of the essential personal rights that is guaranteed in the U.S. Constitution.

As it so happens, I need to stop by the Post Office at lunch today to mail some expensive electronics. Instead of parking in front of the building, I will park in a budget motel parking lot and walk two blocks, unarmed, while carrying my package. How does this make everyone so much safer that it justifies a restriction on my rights??????

Re: SCOTUS criminalizes guns in car if in post office parking lot

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:32 am
by imkopaka
MikeyJ wrote:
imkopaka wrote:
Good thing Texas law already protects us in parking lots, eh? :txflag:
Federal law trumps state law. So the federal ban on guns in the parking lot of a post office trumps the state law definition of "premise", which does not include a parking lot.
While that is unfortunately true despite the constitution's obvious intent to the contrary, only federal law enforcement can do anything about it. State law allows it, federal law prohibits it. If I carry in the post office parking lot I could be arrested by FBI, border patrol, etc, but NOT by local PD, sheriff, DPS, etc.

Re: SCOTUS criminalizes guns in car if in post office parking lot

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:48 am
by The Annoyed Man
imkopaka wrote:
MikeyJ wrote:
imkopaka wrote: Good thing Texas law already protects us in parking lots, eh? :txflag:
Federal law trumps state law. So the federal ban on guns in the parking lot of a post office trumps the state law definition of "premise", which does not include a parking lot.
While that is unfortunately true despite the constitution's obvious intent to the contrary, only federal law enforcement can do anything about it. State law allows it, federal law prohibits it. If I carry in the post office parking lot I could be arrested by FBI, border patrol, etc, but NOT by local PD, sheriff, DPS, etc.
So, the obvious next step is mounting 24 hr security cameras which can monitor all parking spaces to observe drivers while still in their car, in states where private citizens are allowed to be armed in their cars. When the observer spots someone obviously disarming in their car, while parked in the gov't lot, he records the license plate number of the car along with the relevant video and/or still images, and they go arrest the person. OR..... Easier and more efficient from a federal gov't perspective, they simply issue a federal warrant for the person's arrest, and wait for the next time state or local PDs stop him on a traffic violation........

How long will THAT kind of crapulence last before Congress does something about it?

Re: SCOTUS criminalizes guns in car if in post office parking lot

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:49 am
by Beiruty
Selling Narcotics and Mary weeds is federal crime, No enforcement. So as Hilarity Clinton says, What difference does it make... No one was killed in Libya. :cryin