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Re: Gen Petraeus joins with Mark Kelly & Gabby Giffords

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:09 pm
by bblhd672
So the nickname "General Betray Us" is accurate?

Re: Gen Petraeus joins with Mark Kelly & Gabby Giffords

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:16 pm
by tk1700
As a retired Coast Guardsman, I am disappointed to see that my former Commandant, ADM Thad Allen, has also joined that group. He did some fantastic things for the Coast Guard and for New Orleans following Katrina but he has lost some respect for this.

Re: Gen Petraeus joins with Mark Kelly & Gabby Giffords

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:38 pm
by Solaris
Petraeus is a convicted criminal who cannot legally possess firearms anymore. What a great choice.

Re: Gen Petraeus joins with Mark Kelly & Gabby Giffords

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:51 pm
by philip964
No doubt working on a pardon from the President.

Re: Gen Petraeus joins with Mark Kelly & Gabby Giffords

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:06 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
No longer on the government payroll, so now he's getting his money from Bloomberg. Just like Mark Kelly.

Chas.

Re: Gen Petraeus joins with Mark Kelly & Gabby Giffords

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:56 pm
by TexasJohnBoy
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Re: Gen Petraeus joins with Mark Kelly & Gabby Giffords

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:09 pm
by The Annoyed Man
What the heck happened to this man? He used to be the darling of conservatives.....

Re: Gen Petraeus joins with Mark Kelly & Gabby Giffords

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:37 pm
by mojo84
The Annoyed Man wrote:What the heck happened to this man? He used to be the darling of conservatives.....
Follow the money.

Re: Gen Petraeus joins with Mark Kelly & Gabby Giffords

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:02 pm
by ELB
The Annoyed Man wrote:What the heck happened to this man? He used to be the darling of conservatives.....
Wasn't my darling. He traded US classified information and his own honor to help some reporter write a nice about him in a book. I saw people get their careers effectively ended for making actual honest mistakes with classified material that did not result in any actual release of information, not conscious decisions to trade access for getting in some gal's pants.

I have no doubt the administration made sure this came to light in order to forestall any possible political challenge by him, but that doesn't excuse him giving them the ax to chop his head off with, nor for thinking he didn't have to play by the rules all his subordinates had to go by.

He should fit right in with the anti-2A crowd, and we should not let anyone forget what he did.

Re: Gen Petraeus joins with Mark Kelly & Gabby Giffords

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:30 pm
by Skiprr
Charles L. Cotton wrote:No longer on the government payroll, so now he's getting his money from Bloomberg. Just like Mark Kelly.
ELB wrote:He should fit right in with the anti-2A crowd, and we should not let anyone forget what he did.
A sad and disgusting state of affairs. The man is now fully revealed with the wheels first coming off in 2012.

Prior to that, I had the utmost respect for him. He was the 10th commander of USCENTCOM. Obama demoted him when he made him commanding general of the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan. Was POTUS testing Petraeus's personal loyalty? His appointment to CIA director--one of the shortest-serving ever--was the beginning of the end.

Now this.

"Will sacrifice all principles for a bribe."

Re: Gen Petraeus joins with Mark Kelly & Gabby Giffords

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:46 pm
by jkurtz
This is pretty unfortunate to hear. I used to work under his son (he as my platoon leader) and I was able to meet him while he was serving as the ISAF commander.

Re: Gen Petraeus joins with Mark Kelly & Gabby Giffords

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:44 am
by The Annoyed Man
ELB wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:What the heck happened to this man? He used to be the darling of conservatives.....
Wasn't my darling. He traded US classified information and his own honor to help some reporter write a nice about him in a book. I saw people get their careers effectively ended for making actual honest mistakes with classified material that did not result in any actual release of information, not conscious decisions to trade access for getting in some gal's pants.

I have no doubt the administration made sure this came to light in order to forestall any possible political challenge by him, but that doesn't excuse him giving them the ax to chop his head off with, nor for thinking he didn't have to play by the rules all his subordinates had to go by.

He should fit right in with the anti-2A crowd, and we should not let anyone forget what he did.
Yes all that is true. But before all of that, when he was still running the show in Iraq, CENTCOM and Afghanistan, he was very highly regarded by a lot of people for his implementation of an effective counter-insurgency in both Iraq and Afghanistan. I certainly admired him at the time. When he left all that behind for other things is when both countries really went to hades. I don't suppose one attains his rank without being a politician (not meant as a compliment), but I recall one of the praises people sung about him back then was the strength of his personal integrity. Apparently it doesn't make room for liberty. I am actually surprised and disappointed. I thought that he might be one of the good ones.

Re: Gen Petraeus joins with Mark Kelly & Gabby Giffords

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:32 am
by JALLEN
You mean he had a reputation for the appearance of integrity even while close subordinates realized he was having an affair with a junior who got to do the bio.

Re: Gen Petraeus joins with Mark Kelly & Gabby Giffords

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:26 am
by ScottDLS
JALLEN wrote:You mean he had a reputation for the appearance of integrity even while close subordinates realized he was having an affair with a junior who got to do the bio.
I think the affair was with a reporter, not a subordinate. But I believe that adultery is still a crime under UCMJ, though not sure if the person that one is cheating with has to be married too.