Another casualty of Open Carry

[Oldgringo]

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[Lynyrd]

I would LOVE to OC everywhere I go. The fact is, it makes some people uncomfortable. Time may change that, but it will take years, not weeks or months. I want the freedom to exercise my God given rights as much as the next man. But, it's the minds of the masses that have to be won over. In the meantime, please remember that most all of the places we go outside our homes is still PRIVATE PROPERTY. Owned by individuals whose thinking and mindset will determine whether or not they want to allow strangers to carry guns into their place of business.

[philbo]

Same thing happened to my office building this week in Houston as well. A building that had never been posted suddenly posted both 30.60/30.07 signs this week. Places that were not concerned previously are taking sides because of the recent publicity. Hope it gets better, but in the short term the blow-back is making one wonder why they pushed so hard for OC?

[Richbirdhunter]

Richbirdhunter,

You must live in a very isolated part of the state. Here in Houston, once the signs are up, they are not ever going to come down. All open carry did was wake the liberals up in Houston to the fact that they could be putting up signs. I see more signs going up in the tunnels in downtown Houston every day. With every new sign, someone else asks what that is all about and gets the idea that they should post as well.

The lid is off this can of worms and it will never go back. I hope the right to walk around looking like Wyatt Earp is worth it to the open carry folks because a lot of us are loosing our right to concealed carry and it may cost some of us our lives for your privilege to play cowboy.

I sent you a DM of where I live. It's deep in the heart of suburbia

[parabelum]

Guys, this will pass and over time people and businesses will become desensitized to this. It is in the human nature.

This is slowly getting boring to be honest, bickering about spilled milk. This band aid was long overdue to be pulled off. OCT idiots didn't help to say the least, but now is the time to keep pushing, you know...the same way the left fascists push all of us, in the political sense.

What will you do henceforth? That's your own choice and of course.

As for me, I'll keep on carrying, CC and OC if I like.

[dhoobler]

Whether you do it or not isn't important, it's the fact that we can do it. Peoples fears will subside and we will find a new normal.

People's fear of concealed carry has had 20 years to subside. Given the number of new 30.06 signs, where none were present before, people's fear of concealed carry has not subsided at all since 1996. I see no reason to expect fear of open carry to subside.

[Mel]

The only advantage I see to OC is comfort. You can dress more comfortably. I see lots of disadvantages, and new we are seeing a lot of backlash.

Whether you do it or not isn't important, it's the fact that we can do it. Peoples fears will subside and we will find a new normal.

And that "new normal" will be many fewer places we can protect ourselves. Once up, the signs will NOT come down.

[JP171]

I think that the reason we are seeing more signs is that the 30.07 and OC occurred at the same time, when 30.06 was introduced it was a non event and went under the radar because it didn't happen at the same time as CC was allowed. The Anti's have taken this and run with it and yes even lie about the need for the signs to create a hostile environment for all carry and all this bickering we are doing is helping their cause

[Rvrrat14]

As witnessed in several robberies, 30.06/30.07 also let the goblins know where to go!

Sooner or later they all figure it out and become human, whereby they think for themselves.

Patience.....

[ttownsig]

I agree with the OP. I have yet to see anyone OC and believe this may hurt our ability to csrty almost anywhere now. I just gat an email from one of my bosses talking about open carry and 30.07. We never had any official or unofficial emails concerning concealed carry in my 15 years here. I believe prior to OC it was font ask don't tell don't show. But now that guns are in in the open people are freaking out and listening to all the left wing gibberish

[anomie]

[Before the OC movement started everything went smooth, now we see more and more 30.06 signs erected then before. That leads me to the conclusion we don't really gain freedom b but rather loose what we had.

I don't think I agree with characterizing it as 'losing freedom'.

It does suck, but in a big picture (imho), they had the ability to prohibit both before and after (which is fine, because it's their property). Someone prohibiting something on their property isn't taking away someone else's freedom.

Now, that said, I don't like or agree with open-to-the-public businesses posting, and to the extend that it's practical (if every place to buy groceries ends up posting, I still have to buy groceries *somewhere*), I'm just not going to give my business to places that are posted, whether I'm carrying or not.

[The Annoyed Man]

So you guys have no appreciation for this restored freedom? Would you rather the government take it away again for another 125 years? Grapevine mills mall has been posted 30.06 for years and now they aren't posted at all.

Freedom scares people, we have been told it's ok to lose freedom for safety. What freedoms are you willing to give up for safety? We have the patriot act, Obamacare, "common sense" gun laws. All of these things make us safer. Do you feel free?

Are you absolutely certain about this? GVM has famously been posted for years, and as recently as last month it was STILL posted. The parent company is extremely anti-gun, and it would surprise the heck out of me if they removed all the signs.

[Richbirdhunter]

So you guys have no appreciation for this restored freedom? Would you rather the government take it away again for another 125 years? Grapevine mills mall has been posted 30.06 for years and now they aren't posted at all.

Freedom scares people, we have been told it's ok to lose freedom for safety. What freedoms are you willing to give up for safety? We have the patriot act, Obamacare, "common sense" gun laws. All of these things make us safer. Do you feel free?

Are you absolutely certain about this? GVM has famously been posted for years, and as recently as last month it was STILL posted. The parent company is extremely anti-gun, and it would surprise the heck out of me if they removed all the signs.

I haven't stopped by to check but another forum member said he checked and he could see where the signs where. That also coincides with what Grapevine PD told me.

[cyphertext]

So you guys have no appreciation for this restored freedom? Would you rather the government take it away again for another 125 years? Grapevine mills mall has been posted 30.06 for years and now they aren't posted at all.

Freedom scares people, we have been told it's ok to lose freedom for safety. What freedoms are you willing to give up for safety? We have the patriot act, Obamacare, "common sense" gun laws. All of these things make us safer. Do you feel free?

Are you absolutely certain about this? GVM has famously been posted for years, and as recently as last month it was STILL posted. The parent company is extremely anti-gun, and it would surprise the heck out of me if they removed all the signs.

I haven't stopped by to check but another forum member said he checked and he could see where the signs where. That also coincides with what Grapevine PD told me.

I'm betting the new signs haven't come in yet....