Charging Bear
Moderator: carlson1
-
Topic author - Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 3
- Posts: 907
- Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:00 pm
- Location: San Antonio
Charging Bear
What would you have done?
My life isnt worth the chance this guide took on his and his clients.
I would have shot the bear.
Although there is no guarantee that even hitting the bear would have warded off the attack, i think the odds are way better than just "scaring" it.
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 1
- Posts: 1281
- Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:15 pm
- Location: Katy
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 2
- Posts: 7590
- Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:17 pm
- Location: 77504
I believe that was an outstanding reaction...I don't think any round at that point would have stopped that bear from attacking...But the sound and the spash of the round in the water right in front of the charging bear was extremely effective...That was some good instinctive action by the host there!
A good example of why you should consider packing an extra pair of skivvies too!
A good example of why you should consider packing an extra pair of skivvies too!
"Perseverance and Preparedness triumph over Procrastination and Paranoia every time.” -- Steve
NRA - Life Member
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"
Μολών λαβέ!
NRA - Life Member
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"
Μολών λαβέ!
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 1
- Posts: 415
- Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:34 pm
- Location: Fort Worth
That happened very fast. Great reaction time.
It wasn't "out of nowhere" (they knew it was a dangerous situation when they saw the cubs, as evidenced by them saying, "lets get out of here.")... but it was still very fast from the moment the specific threat appeared until they had to take action.
And you can add me to the list of people who would have had to change skivvies after that
It wasn't "out of nowhere" (they knew it was a dangerous situation when they saw the cubs, as evidenced by them saying, "lets get out of here.")... but it was still very fast from the moment the specific threat appeared until they had to take action.
And you can add me to the list of people who would have had to change skivvies after that
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 1
- Posts: 1507
- Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:11 pm
- Location: North Texas
That's scary stuff. Do you think that bear knew the advantages of action vs. reaction the way it came charging out of the woods? I think that they are very lucky that the shot scared the bear off. It's just amazing that he didn't freeze with that monster coming at him. Great instincts.
S.S.G.
"A champion doesn’t become a champion in the ring. He is merely recognized in the ring.The ‘becoming’ happens during his daily routine." Joe Louis
NRA MEMBER
"A champion doesn’t become a champion in the ring. He is merely recognized in the ring.The ‘becoming’ happens during his daily routine." Joe Louis
NRA MEMBER
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 2
- Posts: 361
- Joined: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:10 am
- Location: Houston, Texas
First off, never surprise a bear, particularly one with young 'uns. This seemed like a tough situation to avoid though. Second, always carry a gun in the woods, and make every shot count.
If all else fails, move out fast, any which way you can!
If all else fails, move out fast, any which way you can!
Online CHL App Completed: 25JUN07
CHL App Packet Received from DPS: 29JUN07
CHL Class: 7JUL07
CHL App Sent to DPS: 9JUL07
DPS Received CHL App: 12JUL07
DPS "Processing App": 25JUL07
DPS "App Completed": 15AUG07
CHL In-Hand: 17AUG07
CHL App Packet Received from DPS: 29JUN07
CHL Class: 7JUL07
CHL App Sent to DPS: 9JUL07
DPS Received CHL App: 12JUL07
DPS "Processing App": 25JUL07
DPS "App Completed": 15AUG07
CHL In-Hand: 17AUG07
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 2
- Posts: 7590
- Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:17 pm
- Location: 77504
Not that I ever expect to be in a situation like that...I wonder if my 45/70, if I hit it, would have done enough to stop it, or ward off a continued charge/attack???
Just thinking...
Just thinking...
"Perseverance and Preparedness triumph over Procrastination and Paranoia every time.” -- Steve
NRA - Life Member
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"
Μολών λαβέ!
NRA - Life Member
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"
Μολών λαβέ!
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 1
- Posts: 5110
- Joined: Sat May 12, 2007 12:00 pm
- Location: North Texas
Head shots are the only thing that would stop it in it's tracks.
Empty your mag into the head and hope that you can place at least two there. It will drop like a rock.
Empty your mag into the head and hope that you can place at least two there. It will drop like a rock.
Alan - ANYTHING I write is MY OPINION only.
Certified Curmudgeon - But, my German Shepherd loves me!
NRA-Life, USN '65-'69 & '73-'79: RM1
1911's RULE!
Certified Curmudgeon - But, my German Shepherd loves me!
NRA-Life, USN '65-'69 & '73-'79: RM1
1911's RULE!
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 2
- Posts: 361
- Joined: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:10 am
- Location: Houston, Texas
A "brush gun" in .45-70 caliber? Not the ideal "hunting" round for bear (due to long range ballistics/"rainbow" trajectory), but I suspect that caliber would be an excellent choice for "close encounters," particularly in a handy-sized lever action rifle. That's an absolute thumper of a caliber, inside of 100-150 yards, not to mention inside of 10 yards!!stevie_d_64 wrote:Not that I ever expect to be in a situation like that...I wonder if my 45/70, if I hit it, would have done enough to stop it, or ward off a continued charge/attack???
Just thinking...
A good "brush gun" beats any handgun as far as potentially dangerous treks through the wilderness are concerned. Those super powerful revolvers that some hunters like to carry as "back up guns" recoil too dang much to be accurate with under pressure...give me a handy lever-action rifle any day over that jazz.
Online CHL App Completed: 25JUN07
CHL App Packet Received from DPS: 29JUN07
CHL Class: 7JUL07
CHL App Sent to DPS: 9JUL07
DPS Received CHL App: 12JUL07
DPS "Processing App": 25JUL07
DPS "App Completed": 15AUG07
CHL In-Hand: 17AUG07
CHL App Packet Received from DPS: 29JUN07
CHL Class: 7JUL07
CHL App Sent to DPS: 9JUL07
DPS Received CHL App: 12JUL07
DPS "Processing App": 25JUL07
DPS "App Completed": 15AUG07
CHL In-Hand: 17AUG07
-
- Banned
- Posts in topic: 4
- Posts: 4962
- Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:40 pm
- Location: Deep East Texas
Looks like MamaBear was making a serious statement here.
I saw this same "clip" on an outdoors show last week...but there was more detail given.
The guide was aware of the bear(s) before the charge. On the show...it was related that the cubs got confused and separated from the Mama (one cub even went into the water). The Mama bear had been "Whoofing" to the cubs just moments before...and the guide was already prepared for things to go south.
The Sow knew where her cubs were a short time into the charge, in fact... she even runs into one of them in the process. All of the cubs are behind her at this point (she knows this).
I believe the guide was a "seasoned" sort and knew the charge would likely terminate before the bear reached the raft. He hedged the bet by firing in front of the Sow to help discourage her.
It is truly amazing footage....and a stark reminder of how fast and powerful these animals can be. It also gives visual confirmation to the old adage/advice "Don't get between the Mama and her Cubs".
I saw this same "clip" on an outdoors show last week...but there was more detail given.
The guide was aware of the bear(s) before the charge. On the show...it was related that the cubs got confused and separated from the Mama (one cub even went into the water). The Mama bear had been "Whoofing" to the cubs just moments before...and the guide was already prepared for things to go south.
The Sow knew where her cubs were a short time into the charge, in fact... she even runs into one of them in the process. All of the cubs are behind her at this point (she knows this).
I believe the guide was a "seasoned" sort and knew the charge would likely terminate before the bear reached the raft. He hedged the bet by firing in front of the Sow to help discourage her.
It is truly amazing footage....and a stark reminder of how fast and powerful these animals can be. It also gives visual confirmation to the old adage/advice "Don't get between the Mama and her Cubs".
Spartans ask not how many, but where!