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[dale blanker]

It's interesting how perceptions about the same person can vary so much. I don't understand how either Trump or Cruz could be appealing. They both have reputations for being widely disliked and just hearing either one for a little while should be a turnoff. One talks like a middle-schooler and the other like a preacher.

If Cruz or Trump were running against Sanders and Bloomberg (net worth=$35 billion) got into the race and won, think what he would try to do to 2A.

Rubio seems a little more reasonable when he's not sounding like a record player with a stuck needle or spending so much time personally attacking Cruz or Trump. He seems too anxious to please and a little lacking in self confidence. I don't think he's ready for POTUS.

What about John Kasich? Plenty of experience and good record. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kasich . Heck, even Fox News and Bill O'Reilly seemed to like him!

[mojo84]

I would vote for Kasich long before I would Trump. What chance do you think Kasich would have to be the nominee and win the general?

[Breny414]

I would vote for Kasich long before I would Trump. What chance do you think Kasich would have to be the nominee and win the general?

Personally, I think Kasich would be an excellent nominee that I would vote for. He has a lot of experience in congress with national security issues, he's been an effective governor, he's a policy wonk, etc., etc. But he's a bit stiff and he hasn't been able to get any serious traction so far. He may not even win Ohio.

He may be well positioned to be the VP nominee, perhaps. We'll see. If he can get the VP slot and the GOP were to win, he would then be well positioned for President in the future, if he's not too old 8 years from now.

[flintknapper]

I don't know what the answer is, but I am weary of the childish guttersniping that is going on.

Ben Carson is the only person to not have engaged in it. If he were not so 'timid' acting...he might have been a real force.

Even though I agree with some of Trumps positions and ideas, I have a hard time seeing him as POTUS. Rubio would be swallowed up by Washington...before you can say 'quit that', Cruz is far from ideal, but is at least a constitutional-ist . At this point...I have little respect for any of them (save for Carson).

But in the end...I will cast a vote for the nominee.

Otherwise we will end up with Hillary...and she has already been president once. Also, I don't want to see Bill as 'first lady'.

[mojo84]

Apparently there is some tape that has Trump saying he doesn't truly believe what he says about illegal immigration. It is the New York Times.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/271 ... f-trump-on

A columnist at the newspaper wrote about Trump's immigration plans. People familiar with the off-the-record interview suggested that what the columnist wrote reflects something Trump said to them.

"The most optimistic analysis of Trump as a presidential candidate is that he just doesn’t believe in positions, except the ones you adopt for strategic purposes when you’re making a deal. So you obviously can’t explain how you’re going to deport 11 million undocumented immigrants, because it’s going to be the first bid in some future monster negotiation session," columnist Gail Collins wrote.

The bold part is what I've been trying to stress.

Here is the link to NY Times opinion. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/27/opini ... collection


There must be more to the story that isn't out in the wild yet. The editor of the editorial board did seem to acknowledge there is a tape since he said he if Trump wants it release he can let them know.

[mojo84]

I've been trying to find my copy of "Trump's Art of The Deal".

Here is one quote that stood out to me.

“I play to people’s fantasies,” Trump wrote in his 1987 book “The Art of the Deal.” “I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration — and a very effective form of promotion.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won ... ss-empire/

The guy has a track record that shouldn't be overlooked.

[mojo84]

Now Trump is starting to change his tune on amnesty. That didn't take long.

[joe817]

I've been trying to find my copy of "Trump's Art of The Deal".

Here is one quote that stood out to me.

“I play to people’s fantasies,” Trump wrote in his 1987 book “The Art of the Deal.” “I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration — and a very effective form of promotion.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won ... ss-empire/

The guy has a track record that shouldn't be overlooked.

That speaks volumes about him. Thanks for posting mojo84.

It chillingly reminds me of someone who spoke with the same charisma back in the early 1930's.

[mojo84]

It's not my intent to just bash Trump because I like Cruz for the nomination. I just want those that are hearing what they want to hear from Trump to know who Trump really is and what he is really about.

This list of Trump quotes is also quite telling. Be warned, there is some language not fitting for this forum.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... est-121328

[The Annoyed Man]

It's not my intent to just bash Trump because I like Cruz for the nomination. I just want those that are hearing what they want to hear from Trump to know who Trump really is and what he is really about.

This list of Trump quotes is also quite telling. Be warned, there is some language not fitting for this forum.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... est-121328

And, this video from Ben Shapiro (also has one or two naughty words): http://www.dailywire.com/videos/3733/be ... en-shapiro

[parabelum]

"As long ago as the early 1990s, populist conservatives were imploring George H.W. Bush to secure our Mexican border, as tens of thousands poured across in the San Diego-Tijuana corridor. Gov. Pete Wilson turned near-certain defeat into a stunning comeback victory in 1994 by promising to send the National Guard.

Why did the establishment not respond then to the electorate? Why, instead of trashing Wilson for imperiling future party prospects with Hispanics, did the establishment not do what the people had demanded and move decisively to secure our southern border?"

"As in 1964 and 1980, a new Republican Party is taking shape.

Defections are to be expected, and not altogether unwelcome."

http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/02/a-new-gop-is-born/

[mojo84]

Why keep relying on what others say about Trump? Why not just look at what Trump says and does himself?

That entire piece was written based upon Trump being truthful or the new Republican party getting a big boost from Trump being a liar. I am not concerned about the restoration or reconstruction of the Republican party down the road. I am concerned about our country surviving in the short term.

I grew up watching Trump. I even admired him. That all changed once I started reading his books and realizing who he really is as a man, father, husband and businessman. You see, what I'm basing my decision on is not what political opportunists like Christie and Buchanan have to say about him, it's the character that he has demonstrated over his lifetime.

I have to admit, the Sessions endorsement surprised and dissapointed me, especially once it came puthe has been consulting with Trump on what to say about immigration policy. Trump is already backtracking on the amnesty issue.

I would recommend looking at the man himself rather than just what others say about him because you don't know what kind of DEAL Donald has worked with them to get their endorsement.

Parabellum, I realize I'm not going to convince you to change your mind as it seems pretty set at this point. I make these post for those that are undecided. I agree we need an outsider. I think Cruz is not only an outsider, he has been to Washington and proved he is an outsider. If it wasn't true, he would have more endorsements from his colleagues.

[jed]

Why do people keep saying that no one in congress likes Cruz and he can't get along with others in congress? Do you realize that people think this because he refuses to go along with the rhinos and refuses to go against the constitution? Two very good traits, actually the most important traits. The voters of this country really needs to wake up and stop listening to the feel good junk spewing from the likes of Trump. We cannot vote with our emotions, we must vote for our constitution. This is our only hope to stop socialism.

[flintknapper]

Now Trump is starting to change his tune on amnesty. That didn't take long.

You know there is really nothing wrong with a person 'sincerely' changing their mind or position on a subject. Life and the events that surround us are NOT static. Things change, events and needs change almost daily.

I don't envy ANY of the candidates, since these days...something you said in the 5th grade will be brought up in an effort to discredit you.

Provided someone hasn't changed their position....for political expediency only, then I'm fine with it. Actually,it shows maturity and hopefully, intellectual honesty.

We get it, you don't like Trump.

[mojo84]

Why do people keep saying that no one in congress likes Cruz and he can't get along with others in congress? Do you realize that people think this because he refuses to go along with the rhinos and refuses to go against the constitution? Two very good traits, actually the most important traits. The voters of this country really needs to wake up and stop listening to the feel good junk spewing from the likes of Trump. We cannot vote with our emotions, we must vote for our constitution. This is our only hope to stop socialism.

I trust you realize I consider Cruz's lack of love from his colleagues a huge plus in his favor for me.