Ted Cruz A Texas

[Bitter Clinger]

I apologize. The poison pill response I gave here was a response I intended to give in another discussion on another forum. I'm having to use my wife's old phone because mine is in for repair and I didn't realize I was on the wrong forum.

As far as TPP and TPA, he explained his reasoning in the video. I'll let his words and actions represent him just like I have Trump with his words and actions.

Like you said, no one is 100% perfect. I don't think there is anyone I or any is going to agree with 100% of the time. He may dead wrong on this.

You're right on, and I know with the phones (I'm on mine now), stuff gets mixed up.

Well, the phone and 50 year old eyes.

It's been fun debating over this. While we disagree on who is the right one to right the ship, we both love and care about our country. Neither of us want to see Hillary at the helm.

[anygunanywhere]

Pope, the despicable socialist Pope hates him.

OK Parabellum, I typically respect your posts. I just now read through 4 pages catching up.

Your adjectives, especially the word despicable was totally uncalled for. In no other examples in the post did you deem it necessary to amplify your obvious disdain for the subjects. Just Pope Francis.

Pope Francis may comes across as being socialist and I have my objections to his habit of putting his mouth in gear before his brain is in motion, but nothing he has done justifies his being called despicable, especially here.

I object to your post in the strongest of terms.

If I, a Catholic were to use such terms to describe Calvin or Luther I would have been thoroughly chastised and rightfully so. Public defamation of religious leaders shows a lack of respect given the broad mix of beliefs on this forum.

[parabelum]

Pope, the despicable socialist Pope hates him.

OK Parabellum, I typically respect your posts. I just now read through 4 pages catching up.

Your adjectives, especially the word despicable was totally uncalled for. In no other examples in the post did you deem it necessary to amplify your obvious disdain for the subjects. Just Pope Francis.

Pope Francis may comes across as being socialist and I have my objections to his habit of putting his mouth in gear before his brain is in motion, but nothing he has done justifies his being called despicable, especially here.

I object to your post in the strongest of terms.

If I, a Catholic were to use such terms to describe Calvin or Luther I would have been thoroughly chastised and rightfully so. Public defamation of religious leaders shows a lack of respect given the broad mix of beliefs on this forum.

Fair enough.

I allowed my frustration with Pope who likes to step on my flag and insult my Country to get the best of me. I retract the "despicable" part.

What really irked me was when he tried to lecture us about walls, while he sits in Vatican, surrounded by Swiss Guard and huuuuge walls, with perhaps the most restrictive immigration policy on the face of the earth.
Then he questioned Christianity of those who are in favor of walls, clearly offending those of us who are Christian and want our Nation secured.

Sessions rightly pointed out that Nehemiah built walls around Jerusalem...but anyways. Yes, he debased the Papacy.

[mardad]

The American people really need to wake up and pull their heads out of the sand.[/quote]

Why then, if you bring up things that Trump said in the past that "prove" your point don't you also juxtapose those with things that he said and things that he signed off that would "disprove" your point?

Seems that for some, nothing that Trump could ever say or do now is enough.

When he gets endorsements from prominent conservative Senator, it's no big deal. Probably just that Sessions sold out, an indirect hit on a Patriot who fought hard all his life for conservative values.
When Sherrif Joe, Palin, Jerry Fawlell, National Black Republican association and others endorse him, it's also a shady deal by Trump, right?
When he submitted his financials on time and with accuracy, that was also because Trump is shady man, likely rigged that one too.
When he raised MILLIONS in one day for our Veterans, it was just political expediency on Trump's end, nothing more.
When he raised 1.6 million more for Veterans, that was also just for greed and profit, political expediency.
When he donated to Children Hospitals , raised money for LE, organized money to bring our Veteran who was locked up in Mexico to bring him home after BO left him there to rot, that too was just out of his greed and hunger for political expediency.

On the other side, Cruz and his link to GS and other Banks thru his wife is no biggie. Those contributions are all clean and upright.
Cruz lying to Iowans about Dr. Carson, a fine man, that was just a mistake by one of his operatives.
Cruz repeating lies about Trump, like this:

"The one person Donald has pointed to as a potential Supreme Court nominee is his sister. Now it’s good to stand with your sister, but Donald’s sister was a Bill Clinton-appointed federal appellate judge who is a radical pro-abortion extremist.”

But wait:

" Maryanne Trump Barry is not a Radical Pro-Abortion Extremist. Cruz was falsely reporting the facts of the case, Planned Parenthood of Central New Jersey v. Farmer, that was decided by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit in 2000. Maryanne did write the majority opinion, 3-3 decision, with concurrence by THE CURRENT CONSERVATIVE SUPREME COURT JUSTICE SAMUEL ALITO! "

https://savernation.wordpress.com/2016/ ... nne-barry/

You know who appointed his sister? That's right, Ronald Reagan!

How about Chief Justice Roberts who gave us ObamaCare among other things. Guess who vetted and was directly involved in his nomination? Yes, Cruz.


We can go ad nauseum on this. Point is, my head is not in the sand. I disagree with Trump on many issues, but as it stands now, he will be our nominee, and I stand with him.

Cruz may win Texas and maybe couple more states. That's it.

If you want Hilary in there, just keep doing DNC's bidding and dismantle Trump some more.

You think Trump is bad? Just wait till Billy gets back in , God forbid.[/quote]


Bravo parabelum. Well said.

[mojo84]

Trump's position changes as we debate. Now he admits to changing his position after using the deportation and wall as the cornerstones to garner support.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/03/tr ... egotiable/

“Would it be negotiable about the 11 million?” Hannity pressed. “Maybe let some people stay if they register in a period of time?”

“I would say this,” Trump added, “we will work out some system that’s fair, but we either have a country or we don’t. We need a border. We need a wall.”

This should be causing Trump supporters cognitive dissonance. After all, he shot to prominence early in the race by taking the most aggressive possible stance on immigration. Now he is backpedaling to the exact same position as his reviled Gang of Eight competitor, Marco Rubio.

Just think how he will change his positions once he is the nominee. Kind of like Obama telling Medvedev just wait until after the election.

This is what you get when dealing with people that aren't principled. He would not have admitted this if it hadn't been for the recording.

[parabelum]

Trump's position changes as we debate. Now he admits to changing his position after using the deportation and wall as the cornerstones to garner support.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/03/tr ... egotiable/

“Would it be negotiable about the 11 million?” Hannity pressed. “Maybe let some people stay if they register in a period of time?”

“I would say this,” Trump added, “we will work out some system that’s fair, but we either have a country or we don’t. We need a border. We need a wall.”

This should be causing Trump supporters cognitive dissonance. After all, he shot to prominence early in the race by taking the most aggressive possible stance on immigration. Now he is backpedaling to the exact same position as his reviled Gang of Eight competitor, Marco Rubio.

Just think how he will change his positions once he is the nominee. Kind of like Obama telling Medvedev just wait until after the election.

This is what you get when dealing with people that aren't principled. He would not have admitted this if it hadn't been for the recording.

I think he said that "it's negotiable" , meaning the wall, that he might build it 2 feet shorter

As far as actually building the wall, that's absolutely non-negotiable.



“Building it? Not negotiable.”

“Would it be negotiable about the 11 million?” Hannity pressed. “Maybe let some people stay if they register in a period of time?”

“I would say this,” Trump added, “we will work out some system that’s fair, but we either have a country or we don’t. We need a border. We need a wall.”

[mojo84]

That is still contrary to what he has been saying and what got him the support he has.

[parabelum]

That is still contrary to what he has been saying and what got him the support he has.

Yes, they all want to garner support and then deal with reality as it comes. I don't think that Trump will back off from the wall however, like Cruz did with H-1B visa program when in 2013 he offered an amendment to bump up visas from 65k to 325k, but as election drew near distanced himself from his prior H-1B support.

Politics. I tell you what.

[mojo84]

So changing one's position from day to day is ok if it is to garner support and only once called on it?

[parabelum]

So changing one's position from day to day is ok if it is to garner support and only once called on it?

No, sadly, they all have done it.


Now, let's talk about Hillary and her criminal Clinton Organization, Benghazi, emails, bribery etc.

Time is now to ratchet heat on that one.

Talk about criminality, war crimes and corruption. There's a lot of material there!

[flintknapper]

So changing one's position from day to day is ok if it is to garner support and only once called on it?

^^^^^^^^^^
Absolutely not.

That would be pandering.

Which is fast becoming a synonym for 'politician' it seems.

This whole thing is gonna be a mess, isn't it? I just pray we get someone other than Hillary in the W/H.

[mojo84]

This whole thing is gonna be a mess, isn't it? I just pray we get someone other than Hillary in the W/H.

Exactly why I am sticking so hard on this issue. I believe there is so much ammunition out there on Trump, that he himself has provided, the dems are going to hammer him.

[parabelum]

This whole thing is gonna be a mess, isn't it? I just pray we get someone other than Hillary in the W/H.

Exactly why I am sticking so hard on this issue. I believe there is so much ammunition out there on Trump, that he himself has provided, the dems are going to hammer him.

Whatever factor dems have on Trump, multiply that by 10 fold on Clinton gang in terms of what Trump will do to HRC.

Trump is going to give the Dems the bruising they rightfully deserved.

Almost everything that was thrown at Trump just backfired and his poll numbers went up.

From the very first moment he announced that he's running, he's been attacked by he left, by the right, by Pope, Vicente Fox, China, almost the entire media, El Chapo etc. And yet Trump is not only holding steady, but he's rising and getting more and more endorsements.

Anyone else would have been finished long ago.

Trump is a fighter and he will fight for our Country, that no banana republic will threaten us, rob our treasury and take our jobs, that our brave Man and Woman in the armed forces will be a force not to be messed with, that our borders and our sovereignty will not be trampled on, that our Police will not be mistreated, that WE the American People will NOT stand for this oligarchy and dismissal of our Rights anymore.

And after tonight, the race will be clear.
Aside from Texas and Minnesota, and maybe Arkansas, I think that Donald will have a huge victory.

And even here in Texas, he will gain enough delegates to stand firm.

[anygunanywhere]

Excellent read. This says it all.


http://thefederalist.com/2016/02/29/don ... ack-obama/

[mojo84]

Glad you joined the party. Was starting to feel like the Lone Ranger.