bnc wrote:Anyone who impedes Trump at this point wins my permanent opposition.
I'll go perhaps a step further and consider them working for Hillary Camp. I've had enough.
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bnc wrote:Anyone who impedes Trump at this point wins my permanent opposition.
If you want to vote trump that's fine, all I can say for myself is: "more weight"Jim Beaux wrote:I dont owe an explanation or a defense.JALLEN wrote:Where did you acquire this taste for luxuries?Jim Beaux wrote:
It has become a matter of principle with me. It's time to draw the line. Instead of voting against a candidate as I have in the past, I will now vote my conscience.
Principles? Conscience?
A noted professor and practitioner of politics (LBJ) put it this way, and it doesn't get any more complicated than this:
"When they have the votes, we do things their way. When we have the votes, they do things our way."
We have a big discussion, argue over various issues, then vote. When that happens, we all must go along with the decision of that majority, and if we are lucky and disciplined, they will be doing things our way. Otherwise......
Stopping Hillary Clinton from assuming the highest office in the land is the highest priority.parabelum wrote:All Trump bashers, why can't you go to one of Bernie/Hillary/BLM sites and join the bash/smear club over there, and just leave the rest of us who are not living in the alternate universe alone.
You are doing Hillary's bidding and damaging 2A blindly.
What are you out to accomplish if you're not working for the other side? If you're just venting I get it. But it's always the same folks which make me think you know...
Hillary must be stopped and you're impeding our efforts.
You somehow believe that Trump will prevent that, or is materially different than Hillary, who is has regularly heaped praise on in the past.bblhd672 wrote:parabelum wrote: Unless, of course, you are looking forward to further erosion of all Constitutional rights and the possibility of civil war to restore them.
I don't know what Trump will actually do, but I'm pretty sure what President H R Clinton will do and we should take our chances with the unknown.chamberc wrote:You somehow believe that Trump will prevent that, or is materially different than Hillary, who is has regularly heaped praise on in the past.bblhd672 wrote:parabelum wrote: Unless, of course, you are looking forward to further erosion of all Constitutional rights and the possibility of civil war to restore them.
Sums it up pretty well for many of us, I suspect.rtschl wrote:I find myself in a position that is so troubling to me. In the primaries I was never Trump. I think he is such an enigma that I worry about his holding firm on any issue including the 2A and SCOTUS nominees. But we cannot have HRC as President. No one knows what a Trump presidency will bring - I don't think even Trump knows. We DO KNOW what a HRC presidency will bring and it will be worse than the current administration.
This. For all his faults, Trump has been fairly consistent on the 2nd amendment since he announced his candidacy, and more importantly has promised to appoint strict constructionists to the court. He even followed that up with a solid list of conservative judicial all-stars from which he pledged to choose nominees.bblhd672 wrote:I don't know what Trump will actually do, but I'm pretty sure what President H R Clinton will do and we should take our chances with the unknown.chamberc wrote:You somehow believe that Trump will prevent that, or is materially different than Hillary, who is has regularly heaped praise on in the past.bblhd672 wrote:parabelum wrote: Unless, of course, you are looking forward to further erosion of all Constitutional rights and the possibility of civil war to restore them.