Mossberg Shockwave
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Mossberg Shockwave
What category does the Mossberg Shockwave fall? Is it a handgun or long gun? Mossberg only calls it a "firearm." Would it be legal or illegal to put in a back pack and carry past a 30.06?
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It is an AOW----any other weapon. Since it has never had a shoulder stock on it, it is not subject to minimum barrel length restrictions.
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According to Mossberg and Bud's Gun Shop it is NOT a NFA item so no stamp needed. I believe if it was an AOW it would need a $5.00 tax stamp.JRG wrote:It is an AOW----any other weapon. Since it has never had a shoulder stock on it, it is not subject to minimum barrel length restrictions.
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Mossberg.com wrote: Classification of the 590 Shockwave
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives has confirmed the 590 Shockwave as a “firearm” per the Gun Control Act (GCA), but not a Class 3/NFA firearm. Click here to read a copy of the letter from the BATFE regarding federal classification of the Shockwave, dated 3/2/2017). NOTE: This letter only speaks to its FEDERAL status. There could be local/state laws that prohibit the sale of this gun in your state. Consult your State Police for clarification. Just as with any other pistol grip firearm, the buyer must be 21 years of age, and be a resident of the state where s/he is purchasing it.
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You got me my friend! I thought you have one for sale. I was going to buy it .....again, from you
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I believe that falls under the category of mare's leg.
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This is a very good question. I have one on reserve order with Bud's right now. If I ever actually get it, I was thinking of using it mostly as a car gun, but if it's not a "handgun" within the definition of 30.06, I just might need to find a small pack to carry it in.
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Soccerdad1995 wrote:This is a very good question. I have one on reserve order with Bud's right now. If I ever actually get it, I was thinking of using it mostly as a car gun, but if it's not a "handgun" within the definition of 30.06, I just might need to find a small pack to carry it in.
If you didn't do NFA paperwork on it and it's a smooth bore, then it must be a shotgun (long gun) and would not be subject to 46.02 or 30.06.
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From the Mossberg web site:
Classification of the 590 Shockwave
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives has confirmed the 590 Shockwave as a “firearm” per the Gun Control Act (GCA), but not a Class 3/NFA firearm. Click here to read a copy of the letter from the BATFE regarding federal classification of the Shockwave, dated 3/2/2017). NOTE: This letter only speaks to its FEDERAL status. There could be local/state laws that prohibit the sale of this gun in your state. Consult your State Police for clarification. Just as with any other pistol grip firearm, the buyer must be 21 years of age, and be a resident of the state where s/he is purchasing it.
In Texas, for it to be legal, it must have an 18" barrel and be 26" overall.
Classification of the 590 Shockwave
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives has confirmed the 590 Shockwave as a “firearm” per the Gun Control Act (GCA), but not a Class 3/NFA firearm. Click here to read a copy of the letter from the BATFE regarding federal classification of the Shockwave, dated 3/2/2017). NOTE: This letter only speaks to its FEDERAL status. There could be local/state laws that prohibit the sale of this gun in your state. Consult your State Police for clarification. Just as with any other pistol grip firearm, the buyer must be 21 years of age, and be a resident of the state where s/he is purchasing it.
In Texas, for it to be legal, it must have an 18" barrel and be 26" overall.
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What is your source for the part that I bolded? These are the requirements for a "shotgun" in Texas. But I do not believe that term is defined in Texas law, and using the Federal law definition, this firearm is not a "shotgun" since it clearly is not intended to be fired from the shoulder.Jusme wrote:From the Mossberg web site:
Classification of the 590 Shockwave
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives has confirmed the 590 Shockwave as a “firearm” per the Gun Control Act (GCA), but not a Class 3/NFA firearm. Click here to read a copy of the letter from the BATFE regarding federal classification of the Shockwave, dated 3/2/2017). NOTE: This letter only speaks to its FEDERAL status. There could be local/state laws that prohibit the sale of this gun in your state. Consult your State Police for clarification. Just as with any other pistol grip firearm, the buyer must be 21 years of age, and be a resident of the state where s/he is purchasing it.
In Texas, for it to be legal, it must have an 18" barrel and be 26" overall.
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my thoughts because I also have one on reserve because the price was way below MSRP.Soccerdad1995 wrote:This is a very good question. I have one on reserve order with Bud's right now. If I ever actually get it, I was thinking of using it mostly as a car gun, but if it's not a "handgun" within the definition of 30.06, I just might need to find a small pack to carry it in.
I don't believe this is illegal in Texas. If you have a source for the law please post it. I see this at worst like an AR Pistol. Again the ATF, Bud's, and every other dealer I have read calls it a "firearm."
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I find this firearm way too interesting to be good for my budget. I'm surprised AndyC didn't start this thread.
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Thank you Carl. Now I know what I'm spending my bonus on.
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Texas penal code 46.01 section 10Soccerdad1995 wrote:What is your source for the part that I bolded? These are the requirements for a "shotgun" in Texas. But I do not believe that term is defined in Texas law, and using the Federal law definition, this firearm is not a "shotgun" since it clearly is not intended to be fired from the shoulder.Jusme wrote:From the Mossberg web site:
Classification of the 590 Shockwave
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives has confirmed the 590 Shockwave as a “firearm” per the Gun Control Act (GCA), but not a Class 3/NFA firearm. Click here to read a copy of the letter from the BATFE regarding federal classification of the Shockwave, dated 3/2/2017). NOTE: This letter only speaks to its FEDERAL status. There could be local/state laws that prohibit the sale of this gun in your state. Consult your State Police for clarification. Just as with any other pistol grip firearm, the buyer must be 21 years of age, and be a resident of the state where s/he is purchasing it.
In Texas, for it to be legal, it must have an 18" barrel and be 26" overall.
I can't get it to copy and paste properly on my phone but further down in that section, it states than unless is is an NFL licensed gun it is illegal to possess.
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Umm, the NFL licenses guns?Jusme wrote:Texas penal code 46.01 section 10Soccerdad1995 wrote:What is your source for the part that I bolded? These are the requirements for a "shotgun" in Texas. But I do not believe that term is defined in Texas law, and using the Federal law definition, this firearm is not a "shotgun" since it clearly is not intended to be fired from the shoulder.Jusme wrote:From the Mossberg web site:
Classification of the 590 Shockwave
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives has confirmed the 590 Shockwave as a “firearm” per the Gun Control Act (GCA), but not a Class 3/NFA firearm. Click here to read a copy of the letter from the BATFE regarding federal classification of the Shockwave, dated 3/2/2017). NOTE: This letter only speaks to its FEDERAL status. There could be local/state laws that prohibit the sale of this gun in your state. Consult your State Police for clarification. Just as with any other pistol grip firearm, the buyer must be 21 years of age, and be a resident of the state where s/he is purchasing it.
In Texas, for it to be legal, it must have an 18" barrel and be 26" overall.
I can't get it to copy and paste properly on my phone but further down in that section, it states than unless is is an NFL licensed gun it is illegal to possess.
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LOL phone autocorrect got me again.anygunanywhere wrote:Umm, the NFL licenses guns?Jusme wrote:Texas penal code 46.01 section 10Soccerdad1995 wrote:What is your source for the part that I bolded? These are the requirements for a "shotgun" in Texas. But I do not believe that term is defined in Texas law, and using the Federal law definition, this firearm is not a "shotgun" since it clearly is not intended to be fired from the shoulder.Jusme wrote:From the Mossberg web site:
Classification of the 590 Shockwave
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives has confirmed the 590 Shockwave as a “firearm” per the Gun Control Act (GCA), but not a Class 3/NFA firearm. Click here to read a copy of the letter from the BATFE regarding federal classification of the Shockwave, dated 3/2/2017). NOTE: This letter only speaks to its FEDERAL status. There could be local/state laws that prohibit the sale of this gun in your state. Consult your State Police for clarification. Just as with any other pistol grip firearm, the buyer must be 21 years of age, and be a resident of the state where s/he is purchasing it.
In Texas, for it to be legal, it must have an 18" barrel and be 26" overall.
I can't get it to copy and paste properly on my phone but further down in that section, it states than unless is is an NFL licensed gun it is illegal to possess.
Let's try NFA
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