OR: 2 Portland men stabbed to death after defending 2 Muslim women from hate speech

[philip964]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washin ... olice-say/

Two dead and a third wounded and no gun involved.

In Portland, Oregon, Heaven on Earth.

Is traveling by mass transit better for the environment, but worse for you?

Did The killer fear for his life by two men who attempted to stop him for exercising his right to free speech?

Why did the Muslim women leave the scene after two men gave their lives to prevent them from hearing hate speech? They could not hang around for a few minutes to give the police a statement?

Is there more to the story?

[TexasJohnBoy]

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[rotor]

There are crazy people- lots of them.

"Christian had another brush with the law in 2010, when he was arrested on charges of being a felon in possession of a firearm and theft. Those charges were dismissed, according to court records, which do not explain why."

The courts just don't do their job and let these nuts out to kill and injure others. The issue for me is that the women being accosted didn't even stay to give a police report. I guess they just didn't want to be involved. Three others were involved trying to be good samaritans and two paid for it with their lives. We have had this issue discussed before. Should one get involved in what was a non force incident? Apparently the victims did not have an equalizer to this man's knife.

[philip964]

Link broken for me...

Sorry don't know what happened. Went with WP they will be unbiased. One article blamed the men's death on Trump.

There was no mention of a weapon before the two men tried to stop him.

Sometimes its better to let crazy alone.

[TreyHouston]

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Sorry don't know what happened. Went with WP they will be unbiased. One article blamed the men's death on Trump.

There was no mention of a weapon before the two men tried to stop him.

Sometimes its better to let crazy alone.

No. I left the post and had to come back to respond to this. Call me "left", but I will not sit back and watch someone exercise "free-speech" aggressively on anyone like that. Especially to women. I would've stood up and said something as well.

I wasn't there and I don't know, but the way WP makes it sound, yes i would. Now, it being the WP, probably didn't happen ANY THING like they explained!

[philip964]

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/05 ... ing-video/

The man who attacked two men on a train in Portland, voted for Bernie, and was reported by Trump supporters to the police. They felt he was a false flag. Liked to do the Hitler salute to attract attention to himself.

Obviously insane.

[Beiruty]

Someone should use this

to cure his evilness.
Fry in afterlife.

[tbrown]

Sorry don't know what happened. Went with WP they will be unbiased. One article blamed the men's death on Trump.

There was no mention of a weapon before the two men tried to stop him.

Sometimes its better to let crazy alone.

It sounds like this guy has a history of ranting and making a spectacle of himself at rallies and marches in Portland. I read another article that Trump supporters previously reported him to police and thought he was an agent provocateur.

I don't know Oregon law but I was taught in Texas force is not justified in response to speech alone. The WaPo article doesn't have enough details to know if the three men tried to shut him up by force and he defended himself. I think if he was the physical aggressor toward the three men, the press would be sure to say that. I think if he physically assaulted the women, the press would be sure to say that. I don't know what happened on that train and hope there is video that shows the actual events.

[philip964]

Teen on Portland train: 'They lost their lives because of me and my friend' - CNN
https://apple.news/ACTLhTeSiSa2OMMP2E2d4-A

Teen comes forward. More information.

Trump tweets.

[Abraham]

Mentally ill man launches a tirade.

Happens all the time especially so in downtown cities.

I've experienced these sorts of crazies quite often when I worked in downtown Houston.

That this story ended in tragedy is a horror, but hate speech, no.

Crazy speech aimed at innocents?

Yes!

[philip964]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... tland.html

Trump in trouble for waiting 3 days to mention the deaths and not condemning the actions of the " white supremacist"

[869]

Thought I would chime in here as I was in Portland when this happened and saw a large amount of local news coverage. I believe killer had a run in on pdx transit the day before and was maced by a woman. There is reportedly a video of killer (also taken the day before) talking on his phone about the macing incident and stating something along the line of he wanted to stab someone.

Just sad. I am glad we weren't there.

Here's the video http://www.wweek.com/news/2017/05/28/vi ... -stop-him/

[philip964]

http://www.chron.com/news/article/Portl ... 181686.php

Portland Mayor wants to shut down a planned and permitted Trump Free Speech Rally and a not yet permitted Anti Sharia Law Protest a week later that organizers are trying to hold.

[Jusme]

http://www.chron.com/news/article/Portl ... 181686.php

Portland Mayor wants to shut down a planned and permitted Trump Free Speech Rally and a not yet permitted Anti Sharia Law Protest a week later that organizers are trying to hold.

I guess the mayor has given in to the anarchists, and will tolerate anything they want to do, but not allow free speech. Looks like it way past time for them to take back their city, and kick out all of the socialist politicians, who created this atmosphere.

[Papa_Tiger]

http://www.chron.com/news/article/Portl ... 181686.php

Portland Mayor wants to shut down a planned and permitted Trump Free Speech Rally and a not yet permitted Anti Sharia Law Protest a week later that organizers are trying to hold.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Oregon criticized the mayor's attempts to shut down both rallies, saying the government can't revoke or deny a permit based on the demonstrators' views.

"It may be tempting to shut down speech we disagree with," the ACLU tweeted, "but once we allow the government to decide what we can say, see, or hear, or who we can gather with, history shows us that the most marginalized will be disproportionately censored and punished for unpopular speech."

"If we allow the government to shut down speech for some, we all will pay the price down the line," the organization added.

But Tom Hastings, a longtime activist and professor in the Portland State University conflict resolution program, said the mayor was on solid footing. The looming threat of violence at the rally justified a shutdown while the city worked out a long-term solution.

The part highlighted above concerns me greatly. The fastest and easiest way to shut down those you disagree with is to threaten violence and thus stifle their voice?

That sounds an awful lot like fascism to me.