I'm curious if the following company policy is pretty standard or whether it seems unusually restrictive -- particularly insofar as parking areas are concerned. It excludes the ability to lock one's handgun in the trunk while at work, since all parking is on company property and there is no other parking within a mile or more.
Being an employee, I'm presuming that the lack of 30.06 notices (there are none) is irrelevant in my case.
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VIOLENCE AND WEAPONS IN THE WORKPLACE
[Company] will not tolerate threats or acts of violence nor weapons on its property.
All employees and visitors on [Company] business property must adhere to [Company]'s policy prohibiting weapons (concealed or otherwise) to be carried on their person or in their vehicles on business property or at [Company] sponsored events. This policy also includes individuals who are licensed to carry concealed weapons. Violations of this policy will result in corrective action, up to and including termination and/or legal action as appropriate.
By entering the [Company] premises, all individuals are deemed to have given [Company] expressed authority to search their person, their personal belongings or vehicles.
Any employee who is aware of any intimidation or threat against or by any employee or visitor should report the conduct to their immediate supervisor or to Security or to Human Resources.
Knives with a blade longer than 3" will be considered a weapon under this policy. Management reserves the right to deem any object as a weapon if it poses a threat to other employees.
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Comments?
Cheers,
Patrick
Company policy regarding concealed weapons
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That means that you can't carry at work unless you want to lose your job.
Since you said there are no 30.06 signs, you can't be prosecuted for illegaly carrying a concealed weapon, but if the company wanted to press the issue, they could have you arrested for trespassing since you were carrying in express violation of the company policy.
BTW, notice I said "can't be prosecuted" above. That means that you still might be arrested by an officer who is not as familiar with the CHL laws as we are, but the case shouldn't go very far.
It's up to you as to whether you feel comfortable enough with the security the company may or may not provide. If so, keep working and don't carry. If not, find yourself an employer with more respectable policies.
Jeff
Since you said there are no 30.06 signs, you can't be prosecuted for illegaly carrying a concealed weapon, but if the company wanted to press the issue, they could have you arrested for trespassing since you were carrying in express violation of the company policy.
BTW, notice I said "can't be prosecuted" above. That means that you still might be arrested by an officer who is not as familiar with the CHL laws as we are, but the case shouldn't go very far.
It's up to you as to whether you feel comfortable enough with the security the company may or may not provide. If so, keep working and don't carry. If not, find yourself an employer with more respectable policies.
Jeff
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Glock 22 - Issued by PD, returned after leaving that dept
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Re: Company policy regarding concealed weapons
Could you lock it in a safe in your car and "forget the key" if ever searched? "Um... sorry, forgot that old safe was in there. It's for locking up valuables when traveling; I don’t' have the key with me".patrickstickler wrote:It excludes the ability to lock one's handgun in the trunk while at work, since all parking is on company property and there is no other parking within a mile or more.
Again, anything you do will result in your being fired if caught. I think a lot of companies post "firearms on company property" policies, but the stuff about "or company events" and to mention conceal carry licenses not too typical, to my limited knowledge.
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Did you also get verbal notice?
Patrick:
The language in the policy manual doesn't comply with the TPC 30.06 requirements for signs or other written notice. However, if you were told verbally that the company has a "no guns" policy, then you do violate 30.06 if you are on company property with a firearm. 30.06 does not have a specific language requirement for verbal notice.
Regards,
Chas.
The language in the policy manual doesn't comply with the TPC 30.06 requirements for signs or other written notice. However, if you were told verbally that the company has a "no guns" policy, then you do violate 30.06 if you are on company property with a firearm. 30.06 does not have a specific language requirement for verbal notice.
Regards,
Chas.
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No, per Charles' answer it is NOT illegal, unless they VERBALLY told you. Their written notice must use the language specified in PC 30.06 and per yourOK. Thanks Charles. That pretty much answers it for me. Since it's
communicated to me in the official company policies that concealed
carry is prohibited, that in fact does mean it's illegal for me to carry
at work.
earlier cite, it doesn't.
Now it's not illegal, but they can still fire you.