It “sends a message” ....... “for the children”.jason812 wrote:If this goes through, what is the government prepared to do when nobody turns their bump stocks in to be destroyed?
How can they be dumb enough to claim "Prevents criminal usage of bump-stock-type devices?" I would like to find out how many illegally converted firearms are confiscated or recovered during a crime each year. I'm talking full semi converted not a bump stock. If the number is more than zero, than the machine gun ban didn't prevent criminal usage did it?
Also, if the ATF already acknowledges that a person can use a rubber band, stick, or a belt loop and their finger to do the same thing, what does this really accomplish?
What a lot of people don’t realize is that there ARE automatic weapons that aren’t on the registry. I know of two different people back in California when I lived there, who own unregistered fully-automatic .45 ACP submachine guns - one a M1921 Thompson, and the other a M3 “grease gun”. They were both WW2 “take-homes” that were brought back from the war, illegally, and simply kept secret among family members. The guns were never registered, and as far as the gov’t is concerned, they don’t exist, and were probably listed as combat losses.
There isn’t an existing registry of bump stock owners, and even if the gov’t was able to track down every single credit card transaction which paid for one, there would be no way to account for the ones that were purchased with cash (another reason the gov’t doesn’t want you to have cash). There is also no way for the gov’t to definitively track down the ones paid for by credit card.
- ”Sir, our investigation to account for all bump stocks sold revealed that you bought one from [insert dealer here] and paid for it with your ATM Visa card. We also show that after ATF mandated the destruction or turn-in of all bump fire stocks, you did not turn yours in. Can you please explain that?”
“Absolutely! I sold it at a gun show about 6 or 8 months before the Las Vegas shooting. I didn’t like it, so I got rid of it. I’m sure glad now that I did.”
“Sir, can you tell us anything about the person you sold it to?”
“Not really. I don’t mean to be uncooperative, but you know, at the time it just wasn’t that big of a deal. It was legal to buy, own, and sell one at the time, so I just didn’t think that much of it. I went to the gun show intending to sell it, overheard a guy say that he hoped to find one for sale at the show, and I piped up and said I had one right there in my backpack for sale. I let it go for $100 or so in cash if I recall correctly, which I probably spent on beer and peanuts or something not long after. Like I said, it was all legal at the time. Heck, I didn’t even bother with a bill of sale, since it wasn’t a gun.......just an accessory part for a gun. I couldn’t even give you a name because I never asked, and he never volunteered it. I put my AR up in the safe for a while until I could get around to buying another buttstock for it....which took a while....but I didn’t miss it because I own four of them, and the other two had regular stocks on them, so I shot them until I got around to replacing that bump stock. In hindsight, maybe I should have done a bill of sale and I could have spared you guys a bit of trouble, but like I said, it just wasn’t a big deal at the time. Boy howdy, highlight really is 20/20, isn’t it?”
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