They can be a lot of fun in a drill or competition thoughseamusTX wrote:No. I have never heard of a Texas CHL accidentally shooting an innocent person. In the very few cases where a CHL has to shoot, typically one to three shots are fired.Liberty wrote:Has there been issues with CHL holders making bad calls in these situations.
These multiple-assailant and magazine-change scenarios are appropriate to police work, but I think they are overkill for a CHL.
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I hope I didn't give the wrong impression.Liberty wrote:They can be a lot of fun in a drill or competition thoughseamusTX wrote:These multiple-assailant and magazine-change scenarios are appropriate to police work, but I think they are overkill for a CHL.
Shooting complicated stages is fun and valuable training. I do it on my own time. However, I don't think it should be required for the CHL shooting test.
BTW, most ranges prohibit multiple targets and moving while shooting. There isn't a range in my county (Galveston) that allows them.
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If there were demand for those activities, as there would be if it were a requirement of the state test, there would be places that would meet that demand.seamusTX wrote:
BTW, most ranges prohibit multiple targets and moving while shooting. There isn't a range in my county (Galveston) that allows them.
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There is a demand, but it is being met by private clubs run by volunteers.frankie_the_yankee wrote:If there were demand for those activities, as there would be if it were a requirement of the state test, there would be places that would meet that demand.
The number of safety officers required for IDPA-type shooting would make a public range costly.
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PSC, but you know that already.seamusTX wrote:BTW, most ranges prohibit multiple targets and moving while shooting. There isn't a range in my county (Galveston) that allows them.
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I thought PSC was in Brazoria County.Charles L. Cotton wrote:PSC, but you know that already.
It's hard to tell in that area.
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It's not a matter of determining threats, it's a matter of missing. Picture five targets shoulder to shoulder, numbers two and four clearly marked to indicate no-shoots. This basically makes lateral misses a disqualifier, as they absolutely should be for the test, especially given the static nature and close ranges used. Even so, I probably wouldn't require any transitions at the 15 yard, and at 3 yards, transitions of that angle could be dangerous, so most likely it would be something similar to an El Presidente without the draw or turn from the 7-yard line, maybe done twice, and having a fairly long time limit. (Heck, us 5-shot-revolver types would need two reloads to do an El Presidente anyway.)Liberty wrote:Has there been issues with CHL holders making bad calls in these situations.
Times needn't be particularly short, and in fact should allow the average shooter to reload a revolver from a speed strip, but putting a little pressure on the reload would show how well someone has actually learned safe handling. I've seen lots of folks who could recite the safety rules just fine in the classroom have a ND on the range because they reloaded with a finger on the trigger. All the CHL quals I've seen have been carefully walked through the reloads step by step to avoid this, but it's something that could easily result in a very bad situation if the habits are not discouraged.
This is what happens when people who can't shoot straight start shooting anyway.