Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.

[philip964]

You have a shorter version of that post? If anyone truly has time to read all that stuff, they need to get out of the house.

Yes, actually you can get all this stuff very neatly at:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... as-spread/

There you go. And it doesn't destroy your eyes to read it.

I have not found a site that lets you go back in time. If somebody finds a site that gives more than graphs, please let me know and I won’t annoy you with the daily data.

BTW

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2020/04/ ... ple-alive/

According to this China put alive people in body bags and sent them to be cremated. Cremating bodies is a good way to hide the problem and destroy the evidence as well.

Apparently employees heard people screaming from within the creamatoriums.

[03Lightningrocks]

Is anybody else wondering why we didn't burn down the country over Swine Flu?

The fear mongering is extremely overblown here.

My guess is that the speed at which this one seemed to spread was much more rapid than the swine flu and that garnered the extreme reaction. While I do think the gov't is up to no good in some regards- I have relatives who have tested positive for Covid and others that are high risk for death if they get it- so I'm hunkered down in an effort to protect them and my family.

In this thread you've been saying it's all overblown but in another thread you say are afraid to visit your grand daughter... I don't mean that in any derogatory way, just trying to follow.

It all seems overblown until it gets ugly locally or people in your own family start dying.

Yeah, I know. The whole darned thing is making me a crazy person.

[Grayling813]

Rumors rule the day.

The United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has 1 job - controlling and preventing disease. They can't do one thing right. Why should the CDC be trusted any more than the FBI/CIA/NSA/etc?

Latest from CDC "top guys"...apparently you peons don't really need N95 masks...just old t-shirts. Our "top guys"....

[Outnumbered]

I have not found a site that lets you go back in time. If somebody finds a site that gives more than graphs, please let me know and I won’t annoy you with the daily data.

I like this daily post. I check it out every time I'm on this thread.

[philip964]

MARCH
March 22, 2020- 318,662 world, 13,672 dead. 27,004 infected US,
347 dead. 53,578 Italy, 4,825 dead. 81,397 China. Texas has 557 with 5 deaths. Houston at 154.

March 23, 2020- 354,677 cases worldwide with 15430 dead. 35,345 infected US, 473 dead. 59,138 Italy with 5,476 dead. 81,496 China. Texas has 674 with 8 deaths. Houston 166 with 2 deaths.

March 24, 2020 am- 396,249 cases worldwide with 17,252 dead. 46,805 infected US, 593 dead. 63,927 Italy with 6,077 dead. 81,591 China (is anyone believing this). Texas has 807 with 9 deaths. Houston 199 with 2 Deaths.

March 25, 2020 pm- 468,523 cases worldwide with 21,192 dead. 66,132 infected US, 947 dead. 74,386 Italy with 7,503 dead. 81,667 China (is anyone believing this). New York state has 33,006 with 366 deaths. Louisiana has 1,795 with 65 deaths. Texas has 1,289 with 16 deaths. Houston 371 with 2 deaths.

March 26, 2020 am. 492,603 cases worldwide with 22,184 dead. 69,210 infected US, 1,046 dead. 74,386 Italy with 7,503 dead. 81,782 China (is anyone believing this). New York state has 33,006 with 366 deaths. Louisiana has 1,795 with 65 deaths. Texas has 1,353 with 17 deaths. Houston 372 with 2 deaths.

March 27, 2020 am. 553,244 cases worldwide with 25,935 dead. 86,012 infected US, 1,301 dead. 80,589 Italy with 8,215 dead. 81,897 China (is anyone believing this). New York state has 39,140 with 461 deaths. Louisiana has 2,304 with 83 deaths. Texas has 1,353 with 17 deaths. Houston 461 with 3 deaths.

March 28, 2020 12:48 pm. 640,589 cases worldwide with 29,848 dead. 112,458 infected US, 1,841 dead. 92,472 Italy with10,023 dead. 81,999 China (is anyone believing this). New York state has 52,318 with 728 deaths. Louisiana has 2,746 with 119 deaths. Texas has 2,026 with 26 deaths. Houston 543 with 4 deaths.

March 29, 2020 10:48 am. 684,652 cases worldwide with 32,113 dead. 124,763 infected US, 2,187 dead. 92,472 Italy with (no data) dead. 82,120 China (is anyone believing this). New York state has 53,520 with 834 deaths. Louisiana has 3,315 with 137 deaths. Texas has 2,535 with 34 deaths. Houston 810 with 6 deaths.

March 30, 2020 10:01 am. 741,030 cases worldwide with 35,114 dead. 143,532 infected US, 2,572 dead 4,865 recovered. 97,689 Italy with 10,779 dead. 82,198 China (is anyone believing this). New York state has 60,679 with 1,026 deaths. Louisiana has 3,540 with 151deaths. Texas has 2,306 with 34 deaths. Houston 929 with 8 deaths.

March 31, 2020 9:05 am. 803,313 cases worldwide with 39,014 dead. 164,719 infected US, 3,170 dead 5,945 recovered. 101,739 Italy with 11,591 dead. 94,417 Spain with 8,189 dead. China 82,276 (is anyone believing this). New York state has 67,384 with 1,342 deaths. New Jersey has 16,636 with 198 deaths. Louisiana has 4,025 with 185 deaths. Texas has 3,339 with 48 deaths. Houston 1,054 with 11 deaths.

APRIL
April 1, 2020 10:58 am. 885,687 cases worldwide with 44,216 dead. 185,477 recovered. USA 190,089 infected, 4,102 dead 7,141 recovered. 105,792 Italy with 12,428 dead. 102,136 Spain with 9,053 dead. China 82,361 (is anyone believing this). New York state has 76,049 with 1,714 deaths. New Jersey has 18,997 with 267 deaths. Louisiana has 5,237 with 239 deaths. Texas has 3,925 with 58 deaths. Houston 1,267 with 13 deaths.

April 2, 2020 12:41 am. 981,221 cases worldwide with 50,230 dead. 204,605 recovered. USA 226,374 infected, 5,316 dead 8,826 recovered. 115,242 Italy with 13,915 dead. 110,238 Spain with 10,003 dead. China 82,432 (is anyone believing this). New York state has 92,381 with 2,373 deaths. New Jersey has 22,255 with 355 deaths. Louisiana has 6,424 with 273 deaths. Texas has 4,612 with 68 deaths. Houston 1,540 with 16 deaths.

April 3, 2020 11:50 am. 1,056777 cases worldwide with 55,781 dead. 221,595 recovered. USA 257,773 infected, 6,586 dead 9,311 recovered. 115,242 Italy with 13,915 dead. 117,710 Spain with 10,935 dead. China 82,509 (is anyone believing this). New York state has102,863 with 2,935 deaths. New Jersey has 25,590 with 537 deaths. Louisiana has 9,159 with 310 deaths. Texas has 5,254 with 86 deaths. Houston 1,729(+189) with 23 deaths.

April 4, 2020 11:32 am. 1,141,180 cases worldwide with 60,960 dead. 235,775 recovered. USA 278,942 infected, 7,174 dead 9,920 recovered. 119,827 Italy with 14,681 dead. 124,736 Spain with 11,744 dead. China 82,543 with 3,330 dead (is anyone believing this). New York state has 103,172 with 2,935 deaths. New Jersey has 29,895 with 646 deaths. Louisiana has 10,297 with 370 deaths. Texas has 6,059 with 104 deaths. Houston 2,029 (+552) with 26 deaths.

April 5, 2020 12:46 pm. 1,249,107 cases worldwide with 67,999 dead. 256,059 recovered. USA 324,052 infected, 9,132 dead 16,789 recovered. 128,948 Italy with 15,362 dead. 130,759 Spain with 12,418 dead. China 82,602 with 3,333 dead (is anyone believing this). New York state has 122,056 with 4,159 deaths. New Jersey has 34,124 with 864 deaths. Louisiana has 12,496 with 409 deaths. Texas has 6,872 with 123 deaths. Houston 2,281(+252) with 35 deaths.

April 6, 2020 11:56am. 1,292,564 cases worldwide with 70,798 dead. 271,013 recovered. USA 338,995 infected, 9,683 dead 17,727 recovered. 128,948 Italy with 15,887 dead. 135,032 Spain with 13,169 dead. China 82,665 with 3,335 dead (is anyone believing this). New York state has 123,160 with 4,159 deaths. New Jersey has 37,505 with 917 deaths. Louisiana has 13,010 with 477 deaths. Texas has 7,295 with 140 deaths. Houston 2,243 (-38) with 41 deaths.

April 7, 2020 11:04 am. 1,365,004 cases worldwide with 76,507 dead. 292,467 recovered. USA 369,069 infected, 11,018 dead 20,003 recovered. 132,547 Italy with 16,523 dead. 140,510 Spain with 13,798 dead. China 82,718 with 3,335 dead (is anyone believing this). New York state has 123,160 with 4,159 deaths. New Jersey has 41,090 with 1,003 deaths. Louisiana has 14,867 with 512 deaths. Texas has 8,157 with 153 deaths. Houston 2,968 (+725) with 44 deaths.

April 8, 2020 11:28 am. 1,452,378 ( +87,374) cases worldwide with 83,615 dead. 308,617 recovered. USA 401,166 (+32,097) infected, 12,936 dead 22,539 recovered. 135,586 (+3,039) Italy with 17,127 dead. 146,690 (+6,180) Spain with 14,555 dead. China 82,809 with 3,337 dead (is anyone believing this). New York state has 140,386 (+17,530) with 5,489 deaths. New Jersey has 44,416 with 1,232 deaths. Louisiana has 16,284 with 582 deaths. Texas has 9,211(+1,054) with 177 deaths. Houston 3,492 (+524) with 57 deaths. For detailed information on Texas see https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/ops ... b9cafc8b83 For worldwide information on Covid-19 https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6

Houston has officially been on quarantine for 2 full weeks now. It appears exposure to then going to get tested and getting the test back is more than two weeks or we would be seeing a drop in cases. More than half the new cases in the US are in NY State by itself. Almost 2/3's of the cases are in New York and New Jersey.

[Grayling813]

Anyone else wondering how the CDC can report 379,000 cases as of today, yet also report that there have been only 233,000 people tested?

Stranger still, Texas reports having tested over 96,000 people with 9,353 cases. And if you add up the deaths in Harris and surrounding counties it doesn't add up to "Houston" having 57.

I believe Johns Hopkins data to be full of mistakes and subjecture, not worthy of taking seriously. Since the beginning their numbers have been greater than WHO, CDC and State of Texas.

Inflating numbers for whatever agenda is just fearmongering and wrong. It's just as wrong if CDC and Texas is misstating numbers.

[tomneal]

The article is long and detailed but it explains why a malaria drug helps and why 80% of ventilator patients die. (80% number is my math. An earlier article stated that if 20% that go on a ventilator survive.)

http://web.archive.org/web/202004050614 ... 182386efcb


This article suggests we would be better off if the vulnerable were sheltered and the rest just went about life as normal. Flattening the curve just drags it out.

https://www.wnd.com/2020/04/epidemiolog ... ns-lifted/


I am not a lawyer.
I am also, not a doctor.
I am a recently retired (less than a year) IT professional.

[Rafe]

Stranger still, Texas reports having tested over 96,000 people with 9,353 cases. And if you add up the deaths in Harris and surrounding counties it doesn't add up to "Houston" having 57.

I sorta ran through some of the "current numbers" exercise last night because I had a friend in California needling me saying it's looking "really bad" in Texas. Something I found quickly is that it seems any numbers reported below the state levels look to be difficult to interpret. For example, as of early this morning the Houston mayor's office is still reporting 11 deaths...in the actual city limits of Houston. Other numbers look at that the census bureau defined metropolitan area...technically the "Houston–The Woodlands–Sugar Land metropolitan statistical area" and call it "Houston" even though it encompasses 9 counties, over 10,000 square miles, and a population of over 7 million.

In his press conference this morning, Gov. Abbott said that unincorporated Harris County had 9 deaths, which didn't include Houston's 11.

Fort Bend County reported its 7th death this morning. Montgomery County has had 4 deaths. And so on.

But a lot of news sources are calling "the Houston area" not just the city and not just the defined 9-county metropolitan area. Here's an [urlhttps://www.click2houston.com/health/2020/03/05 ... is-county/]update as of 10:45 a.m. today from the Houston NBC TV affiliate KPRC[/url]. They're including 10 additional counties that are not part of the Houston–The Woodlands–Sugar Land metropolitan statistical area. And that's what I gather other news agencies are reporting. That's where the 57 death number is coming from. That KPRC chart shows Houston with 11 deaths and Harris County with 12...remember the governor's press conference this morning? 11 in the city and 9 in the surrounding county? So, yeah, somebody ain't counting they way other somebodies are.

BTW, counties that are officially part of Great Houston, meaning the Houston–The Woodlands–Sugar Land metropolitan statistical area, are: Austin, Brazoria, Chambers, Fort Bend, Galveston, Harris, Liberty, Montgomery, and Waller.

Additional counties that are somehow now being added into the calculation for "Houston area" deaths are: Brazos, Calhoun, Colorado, Grimes, Matagorda, Polk, San Jacinto, Walker, Washington, and Wharton. So I guess somebody better go tell folks as far southwest as Matagorda Island and as far northeast as Corrigan and Wakefield that they live in Houston now.

[Rafe]

Oh, and what I was trying to do last night to set my California friend straight was an apples-to-apples comparison of COVID-19 deaths reported per 100,000 population. The reporting really doesn't make that possible. For example, it looks like Louisiana is reporting by parish only, not by incorporated city limits. So New Orleans can't really be compared because it isn't reported as a separate entity. That said, I think it would be topping the deaths-per list right now, above New York. I also couldn't find any meaningful city data in New Jersey or Connecticut, just counties, but some of their cities would be in the top quartile, too. For example, Essex County, NJ, with a population of about 800,000, has reported 232 deaths for per-100K number of 29; Bergen County, NJ, has a per-100K of 27.684. Fairfield County, CT, the one that abuts New York, has a population of about 940,000 and has had 132 deaths, for a per-100K of 14.042.

As of yesterday, the cities that were being reported as separate cities and that could be compared looked something like this. Can't do a table here, darnit, so I'll show the headings and then the info separated by commas (and keep in mind, the data is from 24 to about 96 hours old now).

CITY NAME, POPULATION IN MILLIONS, TOTAL REPORTED DEATHS, DEATHS PER 100K POPULATION

New York, NY, 8.60, 3,544, 41.209
Detroit, MI, .67, 221, 32.985
Miami, FL, .46, 45, 9.782
Seattle, WA, .77, 52, 6.753
Phoenix, AZ, 1.71, 73, 4.269
Los Angeles, CA , 4.06, 169, 4.163
Philadelphia, PA, 1.58, 65, 4.114
Chicago, IL, 2.68, 98, 3.657
San Diego, CA, 1.45, 31, 2.138
Dallas, TX, 1.38 , 19, 1.377
San Antonio, TX, 1.57, 18, 1.146
San Francisco, CA, .89, 9, 1.011
Austin, TX , 1.00, 7, 0.700
Houston, TX, 2.52, 11, 0.437

So I don't think we can trust the numbers, but even if you float a fudge factor of 10% or 15%, Texas ain't coming out on the losing end of that bet so far.

[03Lightningrocks]

The article is long and detailed but it explains why a malaria drug helps and why 80% of ventilator patients die. (80% number is my math. An earlier article stated that if 20% that go on a ventilator survive.)

http://web.archive.org/web/202004050614 ... 182386efcb


This article suggests we would be better off if the vulnerable were sheltered and the rest just went about life as normal. Flattening the curve just drags it out.

https://www.wnd.com/2020/04/epidemiolog ... ns-lifted/


I am not a lawyer.
I am also, not a doctor.
I am a recently retired (less than a year) IT professional.

Excellent usable information. Thanks for the link.

[philip964]

.....
This article suggests we would be better off if the vulnerable were sheltered and the rest just went about life as normal. Flattening the curve just drags it out......

As the numbers start to improve. What is the next step?

Because we have sheltered there will be no herd immunity.

One sick person in the population can start it all over again.
(Assuming summer doesn’t kill it off)

If you have had it, it will be safe for you to work. Everyone else will need to shelter.

[Chaparral]

This article suggests we would be better off if the vulnerable were sheltered and the rest just went about life as normal. Flattening the curve just drags it out.

https://www.wnd.com/2020/04/epidemiolog ... ns-lifted/


I am no

Excellent usable information. Thanks for the link.

Look farther for sources. 40+ years academic epidemiology, 15 of that in the highly-politicized sub-specialty of HIV epi. No noted pubs.

WITTKOWSKI: We had two other SARS viruses before. Or, coronaviruses. It’s not the first coronavirus that comes out, and it won’t be the last. And for all respiratory diseases, we have the same type of an epidemic. If you leave it alone, it comes for two weeks, it peaks, and it goes for two weeks and it’s gone.

Covid does not behave or respond like a SARS virus. His number (two weeks) is ignorant, pedantic, and condescending. He is prognosticating on a false asset allocation model, assuming primary respiratory effect, as well.

One of the problems with this approach is that this unmitigated “peak” would be socially and politically unacceptable.