Have the bureacrats gone beyond the chl law?

[iplay42]

At this site it gives eight qualifications for getting a Texas chl: http://www.txchia.org/getchl.htm Somewhat more detailed is this site: http://chltraining.com/eligibility.html I am wondering if the bureaucrats in Austin have usurped the actual law that was passed in going beyond these requirements and making their own requirements in the application process. For instance, isn't it required that one provide his work history? Presumably if you find that requirement intrusive and choose not to respond to it, your application can be denied because of that refusal. Is that true or not? If it is true, where in the actual law that was passed and the governor signed is that requirement demanded? Or have the bureaucrats, simply on their own, added an additional requirement to getting a chl? How does Texas compare to other States in requiring so much personal information (above and beyond the requirements listed in the sites above)?

[seamusTX]

GC §411.174 (b) An applicant must provide on the application a statement of the applicant's:
(1) full name and place and date of birth;
(2) race and sex;
(3) residence and business addresses for the preceding five years;...

- Jim

[iplay42]

Credit reports, divorce records and medical records? Is there no end to the demand to surrender one's privacy in order to get a Texas chl? I saw that on this site: http://www.geocities.com/thavlai/w66.html Does one really have to provide such personal information in order to get a Texas chl? Okay, maybe it's too much to ask that Texas be as liberal as Vermont, but should it really be necessary to give up to the State such personal information that seems to go beyond
1. Be 21 years old. (Members and former members of the armed forces must be 18.)
2. Have a clean criminal history, including military service and recent juvenile records.
3. Not be under a protective order.
4. Not be chemically dependent.
5. Not be of unsound mind.
6. Not be delinquent in paying fines, fees, child support, student loans, etc.
7. Be eligible to purchase a handgun by completing the NICS check.
8 Complete required training.

[seamusTX]

You do not have to provide "credit reports, divorce records and medical records."

You have to sign an affidavit saying that you are not delinquent in child support, taxes, or student loans and you are not psychotic or addicted. You also have to sign a release that allows DPS to search records. I honestly have no idea what they search other than criminal records.

- Jim

[txinvestigator]

Credit reports, divorce records and medical records? Is there no end to the demand to surrender one's privacy in order to get a Texas chl? I saw that on this site: http://www.geocities.com/thavlai/w66.html Does one really have to provide such personal information in order to get a Texas chl? Okay, maybe it's too much to ask that Texas be as liberal as Vermont, ................

So you don't want to give your race, object to having to give your employers info, and you think that you have to give copies of credit reports, divorce and medical records?

The law requires that you provide certain information to obtain a CHL. Seamus already provided where in the law that information is required.

Credit is a non-issue.

You cannot be under a protective order or restraining affecting a marital relationship. DPS will check the records at the counties where you have lived/worked to insure you are not. You are not required to provide divorce records. You might need to submit medical records if there is a question about your mental condition.


You must not be declared finally delinquent on your child support, state taxes, or student loans. DPS will inquire with the agencies who administer those to insure you are not.

[Charles L. Cotton]

Three of the requirements to obtain a CHL should be repealed; they are non-payment of 1) taxes/fees; 2) student loans; and 3) child support. The other requirements will never be repealed, but some improvements have been made on what is a disqualifying "conviction." More improvements could still me made, but the political reality is that it's very difficult.

Chas.

[txinvestigator]

Three of the requirements to obtain a CHL should be repealed; they are non-payment of 1) taxes/fees; 2) student loans; and 3) child support. The other requirements will never be repealed, but some improvements have been made on what is a disqualifying "conviction." More improvements could still me made, but the political reality is that it's very difficult.

Chas.

I also understand quite a few professional licenses are tied to taxes, student loans and child support now too. If you are delinquent, they suspend your professional license. I don't see how it makes sense for the state to want your money, then remove your ability to earn said money.

[KBCraig]

Three of the requirements to obtain a CHL should be repealed; they are non-payment of 1) taxes/fees; 2) student loans; and 3) child support. The other requirements will never be repealed, but some improvements have been made on what is a disqualifying "conviction." More improvements could still me made, but the political reality is that it's very difficult.

Chas.

I also understand quite a few professional licenses are tied to taxes, student loans and child support now too. If you are delinquent, they suspend your professional license. I don't see how it makes sense for the state to want your money, then remove your ability to earn said money.

You can thank the feds for this modern-day debtor's prison.

These days, you can't even get a hunting/fishing license if you owe child support.

[jwp]

These days, you can't even get a hunting/fishing license if you owe child support.

People who produce children then expect somebody else to support those children, deserve nothing. If you owe child support you shouldn't have time for hunting and fishing; you should be too busy working trying to support your children.