Range Qualification

[TXFatMan]

Hi All,

I did a search (albeit a brief one) for what comprises the range qualification portion on the CHL application. Can anyone tell me exactly what must be demonstrated during the range qualification?

Thanks in advance.

Rob

[boomerang]

3 yards
1 shot in 2 seconds x5
2 shots in 3 seconds x5
5 shots in 10 seconds

7 yards
1 shot in 3 seconds x5
2 shots in 4 seconds
3 shots in 6 seconds
5 shots in 10 seconds
5 shots in 15 seconds

15 yards
2 shots in 6 seconds
3 shots in 9 seconds
5 shots in 15 seconds

[drw]

I'll add that you don't have to hit every single one. It's very difficult to fail at this qualification. Here's slightly more information for you:

http://www.krtraining.com/KRTraining/Te ... Ltest.html

The target is gigantic and the range is very close for the first two series of shots. If you can't pass this test (highly unlikely), then you just will need some basic handgun training.

[TXFatMan]

Thank you gentlemen. Good info.

I have no real worries about passing, I regularly practice at 25 yards, getting at least 12 out of 13 rounds on an 8 inch round target.

My next range trip, though, will see me doing the Texas qualification. After that, I'll see what I need to work on.

Thanks again.

Rob

[SCone]

You'll have no trouble. The 3 yard target seems like it's hanging on the end of the barrel. And with the target being a full-size torso, it's HUGE. Do the math, just get the first 40 rounds ANYWHERE in the 8 ring & you've already passed the test with 10 rounds to go.

[texasmr2]

Yah dont worry if you already practice alot. When I took my chl class it was only my 2nd time shooting a semi-auto, GLOCK 23, and only my third time to shoot a pistol and I had the second highest score out of my entire class. Best of luck but it sound's like you do not need it .

[Doug]

Like others have said, the test is easy. Just remember to relax, breathe(!), and listen to the instructor.

[longhorn_92]

Like others have said, the test is easy. Just remember to relax, breathe(!), and listen to the instructor.

Can you follow direction? It sounds as if you will not have a problem shooting - it's just following the direction of the commands.

There are some instructors who are tougher than others - some forget they are no longer in the military...(if you know what I mean)...

I would not worry about it...

[TXFatMan]

some forget they are no longer in the military

I didn't find the range folks in the Marine Corps to be too bad, so I don't think there's anything to worry about for me. I qual'd rifle expert 5 years in a row, too bad that doesn't count for anything.

Rob

[Liko81]

You'll have no trouble. The 3 yard target seems like it's hanging on the end of the barrel. And with the target being a full-size torso, it's HUGE. Do the math, just get the first 40 rounds ANYWHERE in the 8 ring & you've already passed the test with 10 rounds to go.

50 rounds, best possible score 250, passing score 175. You can pass the test in 35 shots, 5 shots before you even get to 15 yards.

The target is still huge, but it's not the "8-ring" anymore; the B-27 was discarded in favor of the TX-PA target, where the head, neck and heart are 5, the rest of the COM is 4, and anything else in the silhouette is 3.

Old (B27):

New (TXPA):


There seems to be some confusion though; some CHL courses still fire at the B27, and at least one has you start from "low ready" (you must raise, aim, shoot) instead of "ready" (you're already sighted, just shoot). I guess this is left up to the instructor, or some websites haven't been updated.

[drw]

some CHL courses still fire at the B27

Lock N Load still uses the B27.

[Crossfire]

The B27 is the current target required by DPS.

From the DPS website: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... pdates.htm

INSTRUCTOR UPDATE

Effective January 1, 2006, all CHL qualifications will be conducted using a B-27 target, therefore please discontinue using the old TX-PT targets. The TX-PT targets are no longer acceptable. This information was provided at the new CHL Instructor School in August 2005 and the CHL Renewal School held in 2005 and 2006.

[striker55]

I didnt realize how close the first shots were till the instructor said stand here and fire at the target at his command. I could have spit at it and scored.

[fredtubbs]

I took my class yesterday. I was prepared for 3, 7, & 15 yards... didn't happen. We did 5, 9, and something that was close to 15 I'm sure... but I didn't notice what it was marked. That is what the range had labeled, is this up to the discretion of the instructor?

Also, we did 16 rounds at 5 yards, 24 at 9 yards, and 10 at 15+ yards.

Finally, the shooting approach required by the instructor, while I think was useful, also caught me off guard. It was lock and load, push straight out with your arms, fire, scan left then right with your weapon, pull straight back, turn and look over both shoulders. We did that every time. Again, while useful technique, I was prepared for something different.

Anybody have comments on this? Love to hear it.

Thanks!

[Crossfire]

The course of fire is NOT up to the discretion of the instructor - it is prescribed by DPS; and what you described does not meet the requirements.

How did you feel about the guy next to you on the line when you were scanning left and right with a loaded firearm? The great majority of initial CHL students are not very experienced with firearms. This whole scenario just sounds like bad things waiting to happen.