Reciprocity (Split from Reciprocity Map)

[klinejg]

Well, that's okay for the U.S., but what about space? This from aero-news.net.

Space Station Crew Can Access Gun
POSTED: 6:16 am EST February 14, 2008
UPDATED: 7:25 am EST February 14, 2008

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- Astronauts aboard the International Space Station apparently have access to a gun.
Russian Cosmonauts carry a gun on their Soyuz space capsule, which is attached to the space station.
Every spacecraft carries survival gear for crash landings, and the Russian Soyuz has a kit that includes the gun.
A photo of a space tourist using one version of the weapon is posted on his Web site.
But although the gun has been there for as long as the space station has been in orbit, its existence is kept quiet. NASA and Russian officials won't talk publicly about it.
Former NASA engineer Jim Oberg, who is an author and journalist, wrote about the gun on his Web site. He said the gun has no place in an environment where people are under such high stress.
"There have been cases of severe psychological strain on people in space, strain that they have taken out -- that their shipmates worried about the ultimate actions," Oberg said.
Experts said the idea of an astronaut losing control was unthinkable until one year ago, when Lisa Nowak shattered the myth.
Her own attorney said she was insane when arrested for hunting down another woman, and prosecutors said she was heavily armed.
Nowak had flown in space just seven months earlier.
Oberg knows an astronaut bent on orbital manslaughter could simply throw any number of switches to do the job, but he said the crews would be safer if the gun was locked up or left on Earth.
The gun is located in a survival kit between some seats aboard the Soyuz spacecraft. All the crewmembers know about it, and U.S. astronauts who fly aboard the Soyuz are trained to use it.

[Keith B]

Well, that's okay for the U.S., but what about space? This from aero-news.net.

Space Station Crew Can Access Gun
POSTED: 6:16 am EST February 14, 2008
UPDATED: 7:25 am EST February 14, 2008

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- Astronauts aboard the International Space Station apparently have access to a gun.
Russian Cosmonauts carry a gun on their Soyuz space capsule, which is attached to the space station.
Every spacecraft carries survival gear for crash landings, and the Russian Soyuz has a kit that includes the gun.
A photo of a space tourist using one version of the weapon is posted on his Web site.
But although the gun has been there for as long as the space station has been in orbit, its existence is kept quiet. NASA and Russian officials won't talk publicly about it.
Former NASA engineer Jim Oberg, who is an author and journalist, wrote about the gun on his Web site. He said the gun has no place in an environment where people are under such high stress.
"There have been cases of severe psychological strain on people in space, strain that they have taken out -- that their shipmates worried about the ultimate actions," Oberg said.
Experts said the idea of an astronaut losing control was unthinkable until one year ago, when Lisa Nowak shattered the myth.
Her own attorney said she was insane when arrested for hunting down another woman, and prosecutors said she was heavily armed.
Nowak had flown in space just seven months earlier.
Oberg knows an astronaut bent on orbital manslaughter could simply throw any number of switches to do the job, but he said the crews would be safer if the gun was locked up or left on Earth.
The gun is located in a survival kit between some seats aboard the Soyuz spacecraft. All the crewmembers know about it, and U.S. astronauts who fly aboard the Soyuz are trained to use it.

Sheesh, give me a break. We trust them to not open a hatch, or emergency valves, or any number of other potentially devistating things, but we can't trust them with a handgun.

[anygunanywhere]

Well, that's okay for the U.S., but what about space? This from aero-news.net.

Space Station Crew Can Access Gun
POSTED: 6:16 am EST February 14, 2008
UPDATED: 7:25 am EST February 14, 2008

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- Astronauts aboard the International Space Station apparently have access to a gun.
Russian Cosmonauts carry a gun on their Soyuz space capsule, which is attached to the space station.
Every spacecraft carries survival gear for crash landings, and the Russian Soyuz has a kit that includes the gun.
A photo of a space tourist using one version of the weapon is posted on his Web site.
But although the gun has been there for as long as the space station has been in orbit, its existence is kept quiet. NASA and Russian officials won't talk publicly about it.
Former NASA engineer Jim Oberg, who is an author and journalist, wrote about the gun on his Web site. He said the gun has no place in an environment where people are under such high stress.
"There have been cases of severe psychological strain on people in space, strain that they have taken out -- that their shipmates worried about the ultimate actions," Oberg said.
Experts said the idea of an astronaut losing control was unthinkable until one year ago, when Lisa Nowak shattered the myth.
Her own attorney said she was insane when arrested for hunting down another woman, and prosecutors said she was heavily armed.
Nowak had flown in space just seven months earlier.
Oberg knows an astronaut bent on orbital manslaughter could simply throw any number of switches to do the job, but he said the crews would be safer if the gun was locked up or left on Earth.
The gun is located in a survival kit between some seats aboard the Soyuz spacecraft. All the crewmembers know about it, and U.S. astronauts who fly aboard the Soyuz are trained to use it.

Sheesh, give me a break. We trust them to not open a hatch, or emergency valves, or any number of other potentially devistating things, but we can't trust them with a handgun.

Okay folks. As everyone knows, the gun could just shoot all by itself. That is what we refer to as "Gun Violence". NASA now needs to place a camera where JSC (Houston mission control) can watch the gun 24 hours a day 7 days a week to be certain that the gun does not kill someone.

After they do that then everyone will be safe. If any other issue arises they can just call 911. After all when seconds count help is only....uhh...months away.

Anygunanywhere

[Keith B]

Rather than hi-jack this thread, there is a thread on the previous posts about the pistol on Soyuez here http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... &sk=t&sd=a

[lunchbox]

any chance California will be in green soon

[Xander]

any chance California will be in green soon

Nope. Since most of their own residents can't get concealed carry permits (some counties are better than others, some counties are no-issue for all intents and purposes...) the chance of reciprocity is nil.

[lunchbox]

how is orange county
it looks like im going to be going there for work some time in the not to far away future

[Mike1951]

how is orange county
it looks like im going to be going there for work some time in the not to far away future

Please don't mention this to anyone at your new job!

[lunchbox]

ok yeah i just told them im not a fan of California
these guys are laid back and easy to get along with
they might even carry too who knows
in time i will find out how they feel about guns
im gunna wait till i get to know them better though

[lunchbox]

but i hear tazers are legal
i may get one

[Mike1951]

how is orange county
it looks like im going to be going there for work some time in the not to far away future

Please don't mention this to anyone at your new job!

I mention this because it's another one of those things you don't do.

As far as your employer should know, you're going to work for him for the rest of your life.

I wouldn't mention it again and don't say anything at all that sounds like you might leave.

[KBCraig]

how is orange county

Here you go:
http://calccw.com/Forums/county-faq/18- ... ounty.html

Supposedly the current sheriff has been pretty good about issuing licenses. If you can live in Riverside County, I understand a CCW license is practically automatic there.

[lunchbox]

if i move to a state with a reciprocal agreement with texas is my license still good how does that work

[KC5AV]

If you move to a state that recognizes Texas, you just abide by their carry laws. Probably just submit for a change of address with DPS with your new address, and you become a non-resident CHL holder.

[lunchbox]

i wasnt sure if it worked that way or not
i was looking at moving and did not want to go through another CHL hassle i hope that is in fact the case
though i really dont want to move at all