What do you not like about CHL & carrying?

[jbirds1210]

I don't like that fact that I am unable to watch the local 10 o'clock news without seeing someone murdered and see a CHL class with only four or five people in it. I wish that more people took advantage of the CHL right that so many have worked hard for!
Jason

[DaveT]

Excellent thread, congrats to Prop in his getting started and for his interest.

About the only thing I don't like is the inconvenience of not being able to carry on a military base. I go to Dyess Air Force Base in Abilene a lot for grocery shopping, haircut, etc. It is not an option to take the gun off and leave it in the car.... there can not be a gun in the car, period... or risk facing federal charges. Since Dyess is a B-1 bomber base, they tend to take security matters rather seriously there. Just by entering the base, you are automatically giving your consent to both personal and vehicle searches. If the air policeman at the gate suspects anything, your car is directed to the side of the road and a search is conducted. At that point, you are actually inside the front gate, so you would be in a world of hurt if there was a weapon in the car...... regardless of CHL status.

My 21 year old son (who received his CHL recently) lives in Abilene, so after making the 75 mile drive down there, we have to go all the way across town so I can leave my gun at his place. Then, with a lot of groceries that don't need to be in the Texas summer heat too long, we have to drive all the way back across town to retreive my gun before we can head home.

Kinda inconvenient, but that's the way it is.......

[propellerhead]

I thought you could bring guns onto the base. What about those who live on base? I remember the range on base would open up for off duty base personnel on Tuesday late afternoon. A buddy of mine worked with the CATM folks at the range.

PS. I was stationed at Dyess AFB in 91-92, then I got out and worked for Boeing on base. :)

[Paladin]

I guess I'm younger and preffer not to have my shirt tucked in, so that's not a bad deal for me.

Although I did have a funny moment a couple months back when a buddy of mine who is an assistant principal told me I should tuck my shirt in (I guess it's habit for 'em)... He know's I've got a license, but I'm not sure he realized why I didn't have my shirt tucked in or that I was carrying. We were in public so I couldn't really say anything at the time, but talking with his brother about it later we got a laugh out of it.

[DaveT]

I thought you could bring guns onto the base. What about those who live on base? I remember the range on base would open up for off duty base personnel on Tuesday late afternoon. A buddy of mine worked with the CATM folks at the range.

PS. I was stationed at Dyess AFB in 91-92, then I got out and worked for Boeing on base. :)

Those stationed on base are required to have their personal guns stored in the gun room at the Air Police Headquarters. They check them in and out as needed. An Air Force Master Sergeant took the CHL class with me and even though he was one of the top enlisted men in the Air Police Squadron at Dyess, he had to check his personal guns in and out too.

On the Dyess website, there was a full page two weeks ago, giving all the information for the big air show with the Thunderbirds that weekend. Among all the directions to those attending, the site stated very clearly that no weapons were allowed on base, and that paragraph was followed by the statement that "this includes all CHL holders".

Pretty strict rules, and the possibility of facing a federal magistrate means they are to obeyed.

[propellerhead]

Crap. I stop by Carswell AFB (now NAS JRB Fort Worth) on occasion. CCW would sure put a damper on unplanned trips.

[Diode]

Crap. I stop by Carswell AFB (now NAS JRB Fort Worth) on occasion. CCW would sure put a damper on unplanned trips.

Mount you a lock box in your car, then on a "Spur of a Moment"
change you can lock it up.

[jimlongley]

I would prefer Vermont Style Carry, beyond that what's not to like? Even the inconvenience of having to disarm at certain locations does not detract enough from the ability to carry every place else.

When I see a posted business, I card them and take my bisiness elsewhere.

[GreenGuy]

I dont like the fact that you cant carry on federal property as well. I work on federal property so I can NEVER carry at work, so my commute to and from work is unarmed, if I have to go somewhere directly after work, I have to go unarmed.

On occasion I have been out and about in the evening armed and needed to swing by the office, and either have to go home and disarm, or just go home.

If you trust me to carry a weapon, trust me to carry a weapon..

[DaveT]

Crap. I stop by Carswell AFB (now NAS JRB Fort Worth) on occasion. CCW would sure put a damper on unplanned trips.

Mount you a lock box in your car, then on a "Spur of a Moment"
change you can lock it up.

Still not legal.

One could argue "who would know ?" but it's still taking a big gamble. Just by entering the base, one gives up the right to deny a search, a posted sign clearly states that by entering the base, you are giving consent to search.

A security alert, or even something like a traffic accident could really ruin your day if you had a gun on base... in a lockbox or not.

I sent an e-mail to the base Public Affairs office today, asking detailed questions regarding this matter. They read it after lunch and are forwarding it to the appropriate person to answer me. I'll probably hear back from them tomorrow, will let y'all know what I find out.

[Venus Pax]

I don't like having to plan around all the forbidden places. I believe we are being denied our constitutional right to carry in post offices, federal buildings, national parks, etc. (Those are our properties. We pay for them in our taxes.)
I work at a school. I'm glad that they have changed the law so that I can at least keep my weapon in my car while I'm teaching, but I would feel better if I had my gun on my body. I have a hard time getting the idea out of my head that a brick could be thrown through my windshield and the gun would be in bad hands.
I haven't come across any 30.06 signs, but I plan to card them and then deny my business if they deny my right to protect myself.

[kw5kw]

Be it a need for different clothing to changing your daily routine, what is it that you don't like about having a CHL and concealed carry?

I'm not trying to stir up a hornet's nest. I'm just trying to see what I should expect when I get to that point.

Edit: I just put my name on the list for a CHL class on June 24.

Go to OnTarget down US377. They have classes every weekend. No need to get on a waiting list.

[Greybeard]

Biggest problem I've had is trying to find a way to carry Glock 29 as comfortably as S&W 340 or Kahr PM-9.

[Jacob Staff]

I forgot my wallet at home one morning. On the way to work I realized what I had done and had to stop and lock up my revolver in the trunk. I was in Harris County and did not want to take a trip downtown if I was pulled over.

I don't like having to have my "papers" with me all the time and paying the state "tax" to get them.

Post office is a pain.

But overall, I am glad I have a CHL.