What Really Happens In A Gunfight

[Paladin]

I can't agree with everything Dave Spaulding says here, but it is an interesting read.

http://www.handgunsmag.com/tactics_trai ... _gunfight/

[longtooth]

This is an excellent article especially for those who think "training like that is not really that important". Anyone that thinks they will rise to the occasion should read this article. No matter what you think, in a fire fight you will be reduced to the level of your CONSTANT TRAINING. Not what you have done a time or 2. I got a 1st hand lesson in this principal a couple of months ago when I tried to change the way I reload. My hands are getting very stiff w/ age. I tried a new move & had practiced it on the range in live fire on several occasions & at home dry fire numerous different times & 20 reloads or so each time because I knew muscle memory controls what we do. I hit the range for my 1st IPSC match & w/ only that much of an adrenal pump GUESS WHAT HAPPENED. I was standing on the start line thinking in my head of the new reload movement. As soon as the buzzer went off that all flew right out the window. My hands went right back to what they had been trained to do. I realized it about the time the 1st mag hit the ground. Lesson. No one, NO one, NO ONE, will rise to the occasion. You WILL be reduced to your regular level of continual training no matter what that is or what you think you will do.

[KBCraig]

During my professional training, we reviewed lots of shootouts. There was once incident where an officer with a revolver was firing from cover, but he was shot in the head when he bent down to retrieve his brass... just like he'd been doing for years on the range!

It really drove home the point that "how you train is how you'll fight".

Kevin

[Boma]

Good article!

[Paladin]

During my professional training, we reviewed lots of shootouts. There was once incident where an officer with a revolver was firing from cover, but he was shot in the head when he bent down to retrieve his brass... just like he'd been doing for years on the range!

It really drove home the point that "how you train is how you'll fight".

Kevin

I heard a similar one about an FBI agent who was killed while reloading. They found his spent brass neatly arranged on the concrete. Scary.

[Texasdoc]

Well speaking from first hand, its feels like time has stopped. You get tunnel vision and you only think of your training.

my defencive shoot was at 18.75 Feet apart and I was hit twice in the chest ,thank god for a Second chance vest.

I can tel you that when its over you will be in a world of your own and might loose control of you body (what I mean is crying, feeling like you are god, or loosing control of you body functions)

a gun fight is not a place I want to be again but I am ready if it happens again.


Let me tell you this you can read about them and second guess there moves but it takes place in less then a minute and the people that review your actions have all the time in the world to point out your mistakes.

Now that I have started to think about it again I think I will go and watch the video tape of my shoot just to thank god I lived.

300shooter

[kw5kw]

300shooter...

Thank the LORD above that you survived, I'm sure he has further plans for you.

I can respect your first hand knowledge, while I have never been in a gunfight, I have experienced a few other things that require major faith to understand.

Russ

[Jungle Work]

I have found that the more gunfights you are in, the more relaxed and effective you become. The first few times, you tunnel in on the bad guys, their muzzle flash and him/her as an individual, instead of scanning the area around you. After the first few times, you gain confidence and the realization that you can live through a gun battle and reality begins to set in.

I don't really encourage civilians engaging in gun battles if they can be avoided, but as with many things, with pratice, you get better.

Most folks aren't used to violence. Remember, what you do in pratice is what you'll do when the manure hits the fan, so pratice hard and realistically. Move, shoot and communicate. And Front Sight, Front Sight.

Jungle Work

[j1132s]

I _kind of_ experienced this first hand, but fortunately it was just at my first IPSC shoot :)

I was shooting my sig and after I walked up to the targets and during the middle of my shooting, I decocked the gun for no reason.

For those of you who has experience w/ the Sig decocker, it is pretty easy to use and you don't have to change your grip much to use it. I've been practicing the DA first shots at the range prior and decock often after a couple of shots prior to that match.

[one eyed fatman]

What Really Happens In A Gunfight

I don't think you can ever really know until you've been in one.

[KBCraig]

What Really Happens In A Gunfight

I don't think you can ever really know until you've been in one.

I don't want to really know.