new alcoholic Beverage sign

[corax]

I am familiar with the "unlicensed carry" sign and the 51% sign. This last weekend I noticed two separate cases (in a pizza hut and a convenience store) of a different sign, to the effect that it is unlawful to carry weapons where alcohol is sold or served.

Is this a power grab by the Alcoholic beverage commission or a new law?

[Renegade]

I am familiar with the "unlicensed carry" sign and the 51% sign. This last weekend I noticed two separate cases (in a pizza hut and a convenience store) of a different sign, to the effect that it is unlawful to carry weapons where alcohol is sold or served.

Is this a power grab by the Alcoholic beverage commission or a new law?

It is an old law. A closer inspection of the sign will reveal it says something to the effect "The unlicensed possession..."

[corax]

I had a good look at the sign while sitting in Pizza hut (and carrying). It did not mention unlicensed. There was some microscopic type in one corner I could not read, but other than that, just words to the effect that carrying where alcohol was sold or consumed was a felony. Definitely a new sign.

At first I thought Pizza hut dreamed it up, then I saw the same sign in a C-store 20 miles away.

[Renegade]

I had a good look at the sign while sitting in Pizza hut (and carrying). It did not mention unlicensed. There was some microscopic type in one corner I could not read, but other than that, just words to the effect that carrying where alcohol was sold or consumed was a felony. Definitely a new sign.

At first I thought Pizza hut dreamed it up, then I saw the same sign in a C-store 20 miles away.

No new laws making it illegal for a CHL to be armed where alcohol is sold (such as convenience store carryout) have been passed so it sounds like a bogus sign.

[barres]

Is it possible that the corporate headquarters for both of these businesses are in states where it is illegal to carry where alcohol is sold? There are several states where that is the "law of the land," but Texas ain't one of 'em!

[Roger Howard]

I had a good look at the sign while sitting in Pizza hut (and carrying). It did not mention unlicensed. There was some microscopic type in one corner I could not read, but other than that, just words to the effect that carrying where alcohol was sold or consumed was a felony. Definitely a new sign.

At first I thought Pizza hut dreamed it up, then I saw the same sign in a C-store 20 miles away.

The sign is not legal. It will either be a 51% or unlicensed carry. Could be old signs that were sent in a package of signs from a supplier. The Manager didn't know what signs to post.

[kauboy]

It could have been a sign as referred to in this section of the Alcoholic Beverage Code:

§ 11.041. WARNING SIGN REQUIRED. (a) Each holder of a
permit who is not otherwise required to display a sign under Section
411.204, Government Code,(Read as "51%" sign ) shall display in a prominent place on the
permit holder's premises a sign giving notice that it is unlawful
for a person to carry a weapon on the premises unless the weapon is a
concealed handgun of the same category the person is licensed to
carry under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code.
(b) The sign must be at least 6 inches high and 14 inches
wide, must appear in contrasting colors, and shall be displayed in a
conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public. The commission
or administrator may require the permit holder to also display the
sign in a language other than English if it can be observed or
determined that a substantial portion of the expected customers
speak the other language as their familiar language.

In which case it is basically an "unlicensed weapons" sign. There are no other signs in Texas, except for the "51%" and 30.06 signs, that can restrict a CHL holder from carrying.

[Cosmo 9]

It sounds like it belongs acrossed the border in NM.

[Liberty]

In which case it is basically an "unlicensed weapons" sign. There are no other signs in Texas, except for the "51%" and 30.06 signs, that can restrict a CHL holder from carrying.

You are not allowed to carry in a place that does not have a sign if the establishment derives more 51% or more of its business from serving alcoholic beverages. It is legal to carry if there is a sign at an establishment that place derives less than 51% of its income from serving alcohol. The 51% sign is not in itself restrictive.

[kauboy]

Yes I know. I underlined "sign" because there are other ways, but the only signs are the ones I mentioned. The "51%" sign is simply a nice little reminder that the owner puts up. I wrote that based on the (false) assumption that the 51% sign is always legitamatly used. Also, did y'all know that a Hospital can place a "51%" sign and keep you out as well? I didn't believe it either, but I looked it up and the law plainly states it. If you want the exact law and where to find it, just let me know. It may take a little digging to find it again.