Flew AA from DFW to CHS (Charleston, SC) - 1911 went with me
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Flew AA from DFW to CHS (Charleston, SC) - 1911 went with me
Have flown quite a few times and always left my 1911 behind at home and took my chances.
Reasons?
Didn't want to hassle with checking in the pistol
Didn't want to chance losing my pistol to some luggage pilfer, etc.
Well, this time I decided to change that. Flew on American from DFW to CHS, direct flight.
Checked the TSA and AA websites as suggested by fine folks on this forum. Decided it was easier than I had originally thought.
Packed my Springfield 1911 in a hard-sided case
Unloaded with a flexible (coated) cable lock thru the breech and down the mag chute - locked.
2 magazines (empty)
20 rounds JHP personal protection rounds (original box)
Locked both slide locks with Non-TSA padlocks
Packed it inside my luggage.
Off to the airport.
Checked in with the counter and declared an unloaded firearm. The American Airlines counter person never blinked an eye. She just said, "Gotta fill out some paperwork and we'll take you to TSA to have your bag checked."
Easy as that. She had me open my luggage, open the locked case and demonstrate that the pistol was unloaded. She had me sign a form (attesting to the unloaded state of the pistol), put that form in the case and relocked it securely.
She called for another person to escort me to TSA oversize baggage check.
This person hollered out to another American employee "Got a gun here!!" I turned around and politely asked him not to shout that out -- Told him it makes me nervous and other customers nervous and the police nervous. No need to advertise. GRRRRRRRR. But he did quit it immediately.
Went to TSA. Really nice fellow greeted me. I stated that my luggage had an unloaded firearm that I wanted to declare.
He was very nice - joked with me about the pistol - he feigned surprise that I said "loaded", then grinned really big and laughed and said that having some fun on the job was just his way of getting thru the day. I joked back too (very slightly) - just wasn't sure if he was on the up-and-up. He was.
He opened my locked luggage and did the swipe inspection. Never touched the locked gun case. Never asked what type of weapon it was, closed it back up and relocked it (one of those TSA combination locks). All this while I was waiting there.
Actually only took about 5 minutes for the counter lady to do her thing and about 5 minutes for TSA-man to do his thing and I was on my way to the gate. Whew, a relief, but I was still nervous about the pistol being out of my sight.
Flew to CHS and anxiously awaited my luggage. Came up the chute. Quick check showed all was OK and I was off to the beach for a week.
Really nice having my sidearm while comfortably enjoying a vacation.
Virtually the same process coming back from CHS to DFW. Same type of paperwork, however this time TSA inspected the bag after it disappeared down the luggage chute behind the counter. Smaller airport maybe, I don't know.
Arrived at DFW - luggage arrived - pistol safe and secure. I was very happy.
Since I've crossed this hurdle, I'll be much less likely to leave my pistol behind when I fly again (inside the US). I'll still be thinking about it being out of sight, but I feel that the overall process is not as daunting as I'd feared it would be.
There are always risks with the luggage, but I hope to fly with my 1911 when future trips allow. I'll always consider that taking along my CCW is a viable option.
Others have written about their experiences too, but this was a first for me and I'm happy with the way it turned out.
LabRat
Reasons?
Didn't want to hassle with checking in the pistol
Didn't want to chance losing my pistol to some luggage pilfer, etc.
Well, this time I decided to change that. Flew on American from DFW to CHS, direct flight.
Checked the TSA and AA websites as suggested by fine folks on this forum. Decided it was easier than I had originally thought.
Packed my Springfield 1911 in a hard-sided case
Unloaded with a flexible (coated) cable lock thru the breech and down the mag chute - locked.
2 magazines (empty)
20 rounds JHP personal protection rounds (original box)
Locked both slide locks with Non-TSA padlocks
Packed it inside my luggage.
Off to the airport.
Checked in with the counter and declared an unloaded firearm. The American Airlines counter person never blinked an eye. She just said, "Gotta fill out some paperwork and we'll take you to TSA to have your bag checked."
Easy as that. She had me open my luggage, open the locked case and demonstrate that the pistol was unloaded. She had me sign a form (attesting to the unloaded state of the pistol), put that form in the case and relocked it securely.
She called for another person to escort me to TSA oversize baggage check.
This person hollered out to another American employee "Got a gun here!!" I turned around and politely asked him not to shout that out -- Told him it makes me nervous and other customers nervous and the police nervous. No need to advertise. GRRRRRRRR. But he did quit it immediately.
Went to TSA. Really nice fellow greeted me. I stated that my luggage had an unloaded firearm that I wanted to declare.
He was very nice - joked with me about the pistol - he feigned surprise that I said "loaded", then grinned really big and laughed and said that having some fun on the job was just his way of getting thru the day. I joked back too (very slightly) - just wasn't sure if he was on the up-and-up. He was.
He opened my locked luggage and did the swipe inspection. Never touched the locked gun case. Never asked what type of weapon it was, closed it back up and relocked it (one of those TSA combination locks). All this while I was waiting there.
Actually only took about 5 minutes for the counter lady to do her thing and about 5 minutes for TSA-man to do his thing and I was on my way to the gate. Whew, a relief, but I was still nervous about the pistol being out of my sight.
Flew to CHS and anxiously awaited my luggage. Came up the chute. Quick check showed all was OK and I was off to the beach for a week.
Really nice having my sidearm while comfortably enjoying a vacation.
Virtually the same process coming back from CHS to DFW. Same type of paperwork, however this time TSA inspected the bag after it disappeared down the luggage chute behind the counter. Smaller airport maybe, I don't know.
Arrived at DFW - luggage arrived - pistol safe and secure. I was very happy.
Since I've crossed this hurdle, I'll be much less likely to leave my pistol behind when I fly again (inside the US). I'll still be thinking about it being out of sight, but I feel that the overall process is not as daunting as I'd feared it would be.
There are always risks with the luggage, but I hope to fly with my 1911 when future trips allow. I'll always consider that taking along my CCW is a viable option.
Others have written about their experiences too, but this was a first for me and I'm happy with the way it turned out.
LabRat
Re: Flew AA from DFW to CHS (Charleston, SC) - 1911 went wit
Is the bag still subject to the baggage fee's?
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Re: Flew AA from DFW to CHS (Charleston, SC) - 1911 went wit
My biggest fear is getting to the receiving end and no bag. I always rush to the bag carrosel and wait where the bag enters the carrosel. Of coarse this is with or without a gun checked.
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Re: Flew AA from DFW to CHS (Charleston, SC) - 1911 went wit
good to hear the experience went well. I will be flying to florida for thanksgiving and was contemplating whether to fly with my firearm or leave it at home. I think i will give it a shot this time.
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Re: Flew AA from DFW to CHS (Charleston, SC) - 1911 went wit
Oh yeah. AA's not gonna give up that gravy train. $25 fee for the bag.Salty1 wrote:Is the bag still subject to the baggage fee's?
I think I should charge them for carrying my 1911....they had the fun.
LabRat
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Re: Flew AA from DFW to CHS (Charleston, SC) - 1911 went wit
Amen. I'm right there with you on that one. Hopefully with so many folks flying and checking bags, mine (with the pistol) will sneak thru by hiding in plain sight. (Hey, I can hope.)FL450 wrote:My biggest fear is getting to the receiving end and no bag. I always rush to the bag carrosel and wait where the bag enters the carrosel. Of coarse this is with or without a gun checked.
As I said, you take chances with baggage pilfer anytime you fly. Not much one can do about that.
LabRat
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People should be able to perform many functions; for others and for themselves. Specialization is for insects. — Robert Heinlein (Severe paraphrase)
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Re: Flew AA from DFW to CHS (Charleston, SC) - 1911 went wit
No they are going to charge you. When I flew my TSA approved case is small enough that it will fit in my checked bag. Only one bag no 25 dollar fee.Salty1 wrote:Is the bag still subject to the baggage fee's?
Re: Flew AA from DFW to CHS (Charleston, SC) - 1911 went wit
My wife just flew to Florida and back on Southwest with her handgun. No problems with the gun of course, and up to three checked bags, no extra fee. All the employees were nice and friendly, and when she got slightly injured in the terminal at the Florida end and had to use a wheel chair, the Captain of the airplane pushed her on board and helped get her settled into her seat.LabRat wrote:Oh yeah. AA's not gonna give up that gravy train. $25 fee for the bag.Salty1 wrote:Is the bag still subject to the baggage fee's?
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Re: Flew AA from DFW to CHS (Charleston, SC) - 1911 went wit
I have flown many times with handguns & rifles with only one negative experience with the TSA crooks on a return flight depating Midland/Odessa. However, I havent flewn in over six months.
These new body scanners and 'enhanced pat-downs' have discouaged me from flying ever again.
Did you have to deal with any of the above? If so, which did you choose and why?
These new body scanners and 'enhanced pat-downs' have discouaged me from flying ever again.
Did you have to deal with any of the above? If so, which did you choose and why?
Re: Flew AA from DFW to CHS (Charleston, SC) - 1911 went wit
I choose the pat down. Just because it's very easy to embarrass them and they don't do it as thorough as they should. Just my experience. Your gonna have to do it if you fly so it's get patted like a crimminal or get blasted with radiation.
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Re: Flew AA from DFW to CHS (Charleston, SC) - 1911 went wit
A thread elsewhere suggests that the gun/s go by Fedex to your destination while you fly.
Should work for longer stays with friends in the US.
Should work for longer stays with friends in the US.
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Re: Flew AA from DFW to CHS (Charleston, SC) - 1911 went wit
I've flown a lot with a handgun, and I've had no TSA issues. I allow some extra time for the 'process' of checking in and follow the instructions. The scanner and 'enhanced' pat downs don't really bother me either. I earned some extra body hardware that prevents me from going through the machines, so I've had pat downs for the past 4 years. I've waited patiently for that cute TSA agent to give me my patdown, but they keep sending those hairy backed knuckle draggers
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