Gun violence as a "civil rights" issue

[A-R]

Reprinted in today's Austin Statesman:

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/02/13/26 ... hould.html#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.statesman.com/opinion/diugui ... 65914.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So gun control, which started as a way to keep black people "in their place" (reference Thomas' concuring opinion in McDonald v. Chicago), is now the answer to restoring the "civil rights" of people who are being killed because the government allows guns?



I'd respond to this more in-depth, but where to begin? And where/how to end in a 150-word letter to the editor?

[WildBill]

This long overdue accountability would track with court rulings on segregation. Justices in the 1954 Brown vs. Topeka Board of Education ruling ended legal segregation. The courts afterward forced states such as Missouri and school districts such as Kansas City to pay to repair the damage caused by years of government-backed discrimination and segregation.

That is really crazy.

Following this logic "separate but equal" should mean that the government should be forced to buy better guns for the people who can't afford them.

[Dave2]

The article is a stream of logic fails. I'd have to go back and double-check, but I believe every point is obviously wrong.

Off topic... Why people print stuff like this? It just gives the publication as a whole a bad reputation.

[WildBill]

The article is a stream of logic fails. I'd have to go back and double-check, but I believe every point is obviously wrong.

Off topic... Why people print stuff like this? It just gives the publication as a whole a bad reputation.

Check out the author of the editorial LEWIS W. DIUGUID. He has written a lot of these types of articles. He has even written a book. I wonder if the circulation of the Kansas City Star is down in the dumps, like most newspapers.

The main thing that angers me about this post is that the Austin paper actually reprinted this garbage.

[Lodge2004]

Check out the author of the editorial LEWIS W. DIUGUID. He has written a lot of these types of articles. He has even written a book.

Based on the synopsis of his book on Amazon.com, he should have a basic understanding of history and how gun-control was used against minorities throughout our history. His article does not reflect that understanding.

From Amazon.com - "Discovering the Real America examines the often overlooked history of white privilege, racism and discrimination in the United States."

Also, $49.95 is a tad bit high for my casual reading budget. Must be one of those books meant to be purchased by the "privileged" parents of struggling college kids.

[A-R]

The main thing that angers me about this post is that the Austin paper actually reprinted this garbage.

Angers me too. But doesn't surprise me one bit. Seems the standard 150-word limit "letter to editor" is the only space the gun rights position is afforded in that newspaper.

As someone who used to work in newspaper business as a degreed journalist and will defend newspapers long after others have blown them off, the AA-S editorial page is a JOKE.

[RPB]

society should be held responsible and accountable for the actions of guns

I don't trust society to clean the action and lubricate it. I'd rather take personal responsibility for my guns' actions.

[RPB]

The article is a stream of logic fails. I'd have to go back and double-check, but I believe every point is obviously wrong.

Off topic... Why people print stuff like this? It just gives the publication as a whole a bad reputation.

Check out the author of the editorial LEWIS W. DIUGUID. He has written a lot of these types of articles. He has even written a book. I wonder if the circulation of the Kansas City Star is down in the dumps, like most newspapers.

The main thing that angers me about this post is that the Austin paper actually reprinted this garbage.

One commentator said that guy wrote about banning Viagra once because it caused rapes. I wouldn't doubt that he did, but I'm not buying his book.

[AJ80]

society should be held responsible and accountable for the actions of guns

I don't trust society to clean the action and lubricate it. I'd rather take personal responsibility for my guns' actions.

A new tax payer funded organization to clean and lube actions has been set up.
After firing your weapon, you must fill out a form telling how many rounds were fired, the brand of cartridge used, etc.
The form and firearm must then be sent to this new organization where a committee will vote on the proper methods for cleaning and lubing that particular firearms action.
Note that only the action will be cleaned and lubed and that any other parts that may need cleaning are the responsibility of the firearm owner.
This new organization is located only in my imagination and it is up to the firearm owner to figure out how to send the firearm there.

[RPB]

Interesting article
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-wink ... 10132.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Adam Winkler
Professor of Law, UCLA
Posted: January 18, 2011 08:25 AM
MLK owned guns and applied for a concealed weapons permit in Alabama... to protect his civil rights. (He had good reason to fear that the Klan in Alabama was targeting him for assassination.)

[billv]

Lewis Duiguid?

how is that pronounced? like "Let Us Do Good"?

Hmmm. do I smell a pseudonym?

[chasfm11]

The article is a stream of logic fails. I'd have to go back and double-check, but I believe every point is obviously wrong.

I'd be willing to bet that the author of the article would be the first to agree that there is no logic in the thinking for the article - and he probably would be proud of that. Logic and reason are dismissed by those who spout this garbage. If they weren't, others could present logical counters to the statements in the article. If you dismiss all logic, the author can be above reproach.

I've met people like this. Even talking with them for two minutes makes my head hurt.

[WildBill]

The article is a stream of logic fails. I'd have to go back and double-check, but I believe every point is obviously wrong.

I'd be willing to bet that the author of the article would be the first to agree that there is no logic in the thinking for the article - and he probably would be proud of that.

In private, he might. He might also tell you that he's laughing his head off that he has the power to get this stuff printed in the Kansas City Star and get paid to do it.

[Shoot Straight]

Gun control is like preemptively locking up Chinese teenagers. It may or may not reduce crime, but it definitely violates civil rights.

[OldCurlyWolf]

The article is a stream of logic fails. I'd have to go back and double-check, but I believe every point is obviously wrong.

Off topic... Why people print stuff like this? It just gives the publication as a whole a bad reputation.

Check out the author of the editorial LEWIS W. DIUGUID. He has written a lot of these types of articles. He has even written a book. I wonder if the circulation of the Kansas City Star is down in the dumps, like most newspapers.

The main thing that angers me about this post is that the Austin paper actually reprinted this garbage.

You can't expect anything better than that from an Austin paper or any other type of media.