Considering a S&W Sigma (SW40V)

[skullface1313]

Just my personal oppinion, every sigma I have shot or know owners who do shoot them, the guns function the way they are supposed to minus a few things. A friend of mine owns a sigma 40 and has sent the gun back to s&w a few times because with using a traditional sight picture the gun would shoot about 4 inches low at 7 yards. After 2 trips back to the factory and 2 new front sights the gun still shoots a little low. Another friend of mine owns the sigma 9mm same thing. Shoots about 4 inches low at 7 yards. His also had a slide lock issue when empty but hasn't had that many times. I owned a M&P 9c and liked the gun for the most part. The only thing I didn't like was the trigger it felt loose and sloppy to me and it reflected that at the range. It shot patterns rather than groups. I now own a glock 30 .45acp. I would save up the money and get a glock, xd or sr40. You can pick up an sr40 for about 450 to550 same with the glock or xd.

[Capt Jeff]

Thanks all. Between the comments here and what I've read elsewhere, my neighbor will keep his gun. I'll save up for the M&P.

I think we can close this thread out now.

[surprise_i'm_armed]

Thanks all. Between the comments here and what I've read elsewhere, my neighbor will keep his gun. I'll save up for the M&P.

I think we can close this thread out now.

Let's all give ourselves a round of applause for dissuading Capt Jeff from buying
a Sigma.

We all know that the heavy trigger pull would have required him to also buy a
comealong to pull that bad boy. :-)

(FYI - A "comealong" is a winch-type device that you fasten around a tree or
other solid object, hook it up to your stuck 4 x 4, and then winch it out of the puckerbrush).

SIA

[E.Marquez]

Thanks all. Between the comments here and what I've read elsewhere, my neighbor will keep his gun. I'll save up for the M&P.

I think we can close this thread out now.

Let's all give ourselves a round of applause for dissuading Capt Jeff from buying
a Sigma.

We all know that the heavy trigger pull would have required him to also buy a
comealong to pull that bad boy. :-)

(FYI - A "comealong" is a winch-type device that you fasten around a tree or
other solid object, hook it up to your stuck 4 x 4, and then winch it out of the puckerbrush).

SIA

I find this stuff funny, I seem to hit the target every time I squeeze the trigger with my sigma, bad trigger pull and all. it goes bang every time, no FTE, FTE and the bullet impacts the target.
Sounds like a perfectly working gun to me..

It's a great 2nd, 3rd, 12th gun..... Cheap, works and it is a great tool for the range bag when working with new shooters.

[karder]

A friend of mine used to own a Sigma .40 and I went to the range with him a bunch of times and fired it quite a bit. I did not find it to be a "bad" gun at all. It certainly did not have the refinement of the more expensive brands, but for what it cost, I think it delivered. If I knew someone who simply needed a basic self-defense tool and did not care about bells and whistles, the Sigma will get the job done and I would have no problem recommending it to someone on a budget. I never experienced any problems with the gun, nor did my friend. Not too long ago, my buddy traded the Sigma in and got a Sig 1911 platinum which is a piece of art, but he made the trade because he really got into shooting and wanted something nicer, not because there was anything wrong with the Sigma. Personally, I would not buy one, but that is because I really enjoy shooting and appreciate fine craftsmanship, so I would spend more and get something else. IMO it is like driving a Toyota because it is economical or driving a Lexus because it is nice. Truth be told, most of us would probably want the Lexus, but would be just fine in the Toyota.

[doc540]

I've owned four or five of them (and just made an offer today on another one).

Best hi-cap, life time guarantee semi I've ever bought new for less than $300. (They're currently $298 shipped from Bud's.)

A simple call to S&W customer service will vastly improve the trigger.

I've just told them the truth about it being "rough" (NOT STIFF), and they emailed a prepaid shipping label. (even on used guns)

They smoothed it up and paid to ship the frame back to me within a couple of weeks.

Smoother feels like "lighter", but it isn't. It's just " much better".

Can't beat that kind of customer service.

I"ve found them to be excellent, inexpensive car or home defense guns for the money.

[The Annoyed Man]

I've owned four or five of them (and just made an offer today on another one).

Best hi-cap, life time guarantee semi I've ever bought new for less than $300. (They're currently $298 shipped from Bud's.)

A simple call to S&W customer service will vastly improve the trigger.

I've just told them the truth about it being "rough" (NOT STIFF), and they emailed a prepaid shipping label. (even on used guns)

They smoothed it up and paid to ship the frame back to me within a couple of weeks.

Smoother feels like "lighter", but it isn't. It's just " much better".

Can't beat that kind of customer service.

I"ve found them to be excellent, inexpensive car or home defense guns for the money.

But, but, but doc, it's not a Colt. How can you look in the mirror?

[RPBrown]

I have a SV 40 that I use as a truck gun. It oes to the range every time I do just to make sure it still works. It shoots every time but it is only a truck gun and thats where it stays. I do not have a M & P so I cannot comment but I do have an XD and several 1911's that are easier to shoot and that I use for every day carry (altrnating of course).

Alternating? Why not stick with one pistol that you always carry, or at least carry different pistols that have the same controls?..ie thumb safeties etc...
(please do not take this post as a negative one, that is not the way it is intended)

Not at all negative. I use different platforms at different times of year. Even have a couple of revolvers that go out from time to time. Trust me, I do not carry a gun unless I am sure it is reliable and I am fully aware of its function.
Two things I collect is guns and motorcycles and have several of each in different types.

[doc540]

I've owned four or five of them (and just made an offer today on another one).

Best hi-cap, life time guarantee semi I've ever bought new for less than $300. (They're currently $298 shipped from Bud's.)

A simple call to S&W customer service will vastly improve the trigger.

I've just told them the truth about it being "rough" (NOT STIFF), and they emailed a prepaid shipping label. (even on used guns)

They smoothed it up and paid to ship the frame back to me within a couple of weeks.

Smoother feels like "lighter", but it isn't. It's just " much better".

Can't beat that kind of customer service.

I"ve found them to be excellent, inexpensive car or home defense guns for the money.

But, but, but doc, it's not a Colt. How can you look in the mirror?

My Colts know I love them enough to never leave them alone in the car.

[rbrecount]

The Sigma is a starter, or first gun. It can be made pretty good. The SD9 is better, the M&P the best. That's the word from the S&W forums. Me and the factory made a Sigma good. I went looking for an SD and found myself jumping over that to a Springfield XD when the price got right. I'm not sure I'm gonna like it better than a M&P. The pricing of these mentioned tell the tale.

[G.A. Heath]

Let's all give ourselves a round of applause for dissuading Capt Jeff from buying a Sigma.

I've been trying not to say anything for a few days now, but I can hold back no longer. Lets not dissuade anyone, who can legally do so, from buying a firearm. Instead lets help them make informed decisions like we did in this thread.

[DFWTT]

Alright, I'll weigh in. I'm a Glock guy but I'm willing to look at and/or buy anything that is worth it in oberservation, fit and function. That said, I would feel comfortable with one in the shop toolbox or in the bathroom but I'm going to side with the majority here and say no, not as a primary weapon. Save an extra 100 or two and buy with confidence. If the price is good enough though, see above.

[Skaven]

I was at my CHL class, and for fun, a guy who sat next to me swapped guns for the range qual. (I have an M&P 40, he had the sigma) I had 1 FTE with the first round of fire. I was not sure if it was upkeep, or what but from the way the gun feels, and the way it was acting, I would not put my life on the line with that gun. Afterwords the guy was seriously impressed with the m&p and was already talking about swapping.