So, have you ever had to use/display your weapon?
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Never have I had to present my weapon in public, I hope and pray that I never have to.
As the story in another thread talked about a disgruntled lover making threats to his ex-girlfriend and her new boyfriend, and he wound up breaking in and being shot after making good on his threats; my wife and I, likewise, have had such threats made against us by our ex-son-in-law. He's the reason for the CHL in the first place.
This was several years ago and I have to assume that the threats are now either nominal or non-existent and made by a now nonentity in our lives.
I have heard noises about the house and had my .45 in my hand as I checked out the totally dark interior. That's to my advantage as I know the terrority, someone else does not, a light would only help them.
And my new son-in-law is a fantastic guy and a CHL'er himself, with my daughter in the waiting room for her's to come in.
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As the story in another thread talked about a disgruntled lover making threats to his ex-girlfriend and her new boyfriend, and he wound up breaking in and being shot after making good on his threats; my wife and I, likewise, have had such threats made against us by our ex-son-in-law. He's the reason for the CHL in the first place.
This was several years ago and I have to assume that the threats are now either nominal or non-existent and made by a now nonentity in our lives.
I have heard noises about the house and had my .45 in my hand as I checked out the totally dark interior. That's to my advantage as I know the terrority, someone else does not, a light would only help them.
And my new son-in-law is a fantastic guy and a CHL'er himself, with my daughter in the waiting room for her's to come in.
Russ
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Is it legal to use a gun against a dog? I know OC is fine, but are we allowed to use a gun in public to kill an attacking dog? I know I'd rather live and have a dead dog in front of me than to suffer whatever he had in mind, but is it legal?Paladin wrote:I've been through numerous dog attacks. Once I drew my gun, but didn't have a clear shot, and the owner came out and got his dog.
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Oh yeah, she worked for a large client....a government agency that uses guards, in fact. In retrospect, I don't believe she was drawing the gun to threaten or harm us. The 911 dispatcher asked me if the person was armed, and I described the pistol in her holster. She said, "yeah, I gots my gun, you wanna see it?"kauboy wrote:If she was going to be a student, didn't you have her info? Did she get charged for it?txinvestigator wrote:When she cleared leather she found 2 employees and a customer with a bead on her. She holstered and departed forth wit.
But who knows. She was not fired, but suspended. Then a Human Resources person interviewed me when she appealed her suspension.
She was yelling and raising Cain as I was speaking to 911.
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Yeah, check this thread: http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... dog+attackkauboy wrote:Is it legal to use a gun against a dog? I know OC is fine, but are we allowed to use a gun in public to kill an attacking dog? I know I'd rather live and have a dead dog in front of me than to suffer whatever he had in mind, but is it legal?Paladin wrote:I've been through numerous dog attacks. Once I drew my gun, but didn't have a clear shot, and the owner came out and got his dog.
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No, I've never had to display a handgun. There WAS that broadsword I used to run off some burglars who were casing a house I was watching when I was in my early teens, but... Everything turned out all right in the end in that one - they stayed outside the house, cussing up a storm, and I stayed inside, with the sword and all the homeowner's belongings. Nothing got stolen, no one got hacked. Everyone won.
I DID almost have to draw on a dog a couple weeks ago. I'm not sure if the animal was owned or just a stray. I was in the supermarket parking lot, returning to my vehicle with some cat food, and this dog zeroed in on me. He totally ignored all the other people in the lot, instead barking and acting aggressive toward me.
Needless to say, discharging a firearm in a parking lot in town at night is NOT on my list of "I wanna do this." Fortunately, the dog backed down from its own aggressive posture after I started responding, using a shopping cart as shield/weapon. My other hand was constantly in my pocket, however, ready to use the revolver I had. That dog was faster than my shopping cart, and had he pushed it, I WOULD have had to shoot him.
I never leave my pepper spray at home anymore. In the same situation now, I'd simply give the dog a shot of pepper, and walk away. My lack of foresight gave me two options that night - kill the dog, or dance with a shopping cart and an aggressive canine and risk getting bitten. Neither option was very appealing.
I DID almost have to draw on a dog a couple weeks ago. I'm not sure if the animal was owned or just a stray. I was in the supermarket parking lot, returning to my vehicle with some cat food, and this dog zeroed in on me. He totally ignored all the other people in the lot, instead barking and acting aggressive toward me.
Needless to say, discharging a firearm in a parking lot in town at night is NOT on my list of "I wanna do this." Fortunately, the dog backed down from its own aggressive posture after I started responding, using a shopping cart as shield/weapon. My other hand was constantly in my pocket, however, ready to use the revolver I had. That dog was faster than my shopping cart, and had he pushed it, I WOULD have had to shoot him.
I never leave my pepper spray at home anymore. In the same situation now, I'd simply give the dog a shot of pepper, and walk away. My lack of foresight gave me two options that night - kill the dog, or dance with a shopping cart and an aggressive canine and risk getting bitten. Neither option was very appealing.
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Once, in downtown Houston at 1:30AM. It screwed me up mentally for days. During that time, I found myself enraged by the guy brought me to the brink of ending his life. I still remember getting home and having to convince myself that I hadn't left a leaking body in front of my office building.
HPD's response when I called to report what happened inspired no confidence. I called saying a man had tried to assault me with a brick. They asked if I'd shot him. I said, "No." HPD desk officer's reply, "Why are you calling again?"
HPD's response when I called to report what happened inspired no confidence. I called saying a man had tried to assault me with a brick. They asked if I'd shot him. I said, "No." HPD desk officer's reply, "Why are you calling again?"
When you take the time out of your day to beat someone, it has a much longer lasting effect on their demeanor than simply shooting or tazing them.
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G.C.M., that's pretty sad that they weren't interested in taking the report. They may not have ever found him, but assault charges needed to be filed against him.
I've never had to draw my weapon outside of my home. If dh & I hear something, we pick up guns & investigate. This usually occurs at home, and its usually dogs outside or one of the cats or our dog tearing up something inside.
I've never had to draw my weapon outside of my home. If dh & I hear something, we pick up guns & investigate. This usually occurs at home, and its usually dogs outside or one of the cats or our dog tearing up something inside.
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Montogmery,
I had some problems in Houston years ago with home burlaries. Advice of HPD was to get a .357 Magnum, practice with .38's and shoot'em with the mags.
Several years later, I asked the Lake Houston Patrol, a division of HPD, what to do about jet boaters zoomin' me and the old lady while fishing. They advised, "Shoot'em."
Houston was that kind of town back then. I read now where it's a kinder, gentler place, and the crime rate has doubled in the past year.
I had some problems in Houston years ago with home burlaries. Advice of HPD was to get a .357 Magnum, practice with .38's and shoot'em with the mags.
Several years later, I asked the Lake Houston Patrol, a division of HPD, what to do about jet boaters zoomin' me and the old lady while fishing. They advised, "Shoot'em."
Houston was that kind of town back then. I read now where it's a kinder, gentler place, and the crime rate has doubled in the past year.
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Venus Pax wrote:G.C.M., that's pretty sad that they weren't interested in taking the report. They may not have ever found him, but assault charges needed to be filed against him.
I've never had to draw my weapon outside of my home. If dh & I hear something, we pick up guns & investigate. This usually occurs at home, and its usually dogs outside or one of the cats or our dog tearing up something inside.
I've become convinced that some agencies exist mostly for the purpose of filling reports for insurance purposes. I honestly think HPD is one of those agencies. There are cases that HPD's leadership does believe warrant investigations and dedicated resources but they involve losses of over $50,000 and/or a leaking body.
About a year after that incident, building security started advising tenants of a guy matching my guy's description, accosting people leaving the building at night. I honestly think he was a probably psychotic and in need of being institutionalized. But, we generally don't do that in Texas anymore. HPD will probably get interested after he caves in some rich socialite's skull.
Casingpoint, Houston is a kinder gentler place than it was ten years ago. I've noticed suspects who've killed or shot police officers in the last five years have all lived long enough to get to court. When I was a kid in the early 80's that would not have happened. It's amazing how many people fell out of moving police cars, committed suicide in jail or were discovered floating in the Ship Channel after being arrested or questioned for their involvement in the death or injury of a police officer.
When you take the time out of your day to beat someone, it has a much longer lasting effect on their demeanor than simply shooting or tazing them.
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How about throwing him the cat food?Thane wrote:My lack of foresight gave me two options that night - kill the dog, or dance with a shopping cart and an aggressive canine and risk getting bitten. Neither option was very appealing.
That's a short-term solution and doesn't eliminate the threat for the next shopper the dog harasses, but you wouldn't have to deal with the police or an emergency room.
Your cat would be annoyed, of course.
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I was a bout 15 months ago myself and the wife where leaving the Doctors office and went into the parking garage when 3 B/M's approach and told the wife to give them her purse and for me to give them my wallet ,they where armed with a large screwdriver and a looked to be a small bat, When the was acting like she was placing the purse on the ground I draw my Glock 23 from a IWB holster the guy on the right must of saw me go for it as he started to run and the other two where looking at the gun and standing there and wouldn't move . I had the wife call 911 and Austin PD came and arrested the 2 that where still there.
Here is the part I didn't like APD took my Gun and made me go downtown to get my gun back.
To make a Long story shorter the officers that came can't write a report right and they DA kicked them loose for a technical.
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Here is the part I didn't like APD took my Gun and made me go downtown to get my gun back.
To make a Long story shorter the officers that came can't write a report right and they DA kicked them loose for a technical.
300shooter