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I didn't hear it go to a vote no motion to suspend the rule... Who's sleeping down there?Monker10 wrote:It seems several bill were passed with two or more subjects. It doesn't make sense
I though you could suspend the two subject rule with a supermajority vote. Did we not have votes?
It just goes to show that sadly emotion and fear mongering trumps logic and evidence
Neither did I. Makes you wonder.RPB wrote:I didn't hear it go to a vote no motion to suspend the rule... Who's sleeping down there?Monker10 wrote:It seems several bill were passed with two or more subjects. It doesn't make sense
I though you could suspend the two subject rule with a supermajority vote. Did we not have votes?
It just goes to show that sadly emotion and fear mongering trumps logic and evidence
baldeagle wrote:Am I the only one thinking that Senator Wentworth is stupid? He never should have allowed the campus carry amendment, which passed the Senate, to be removed from SB 5. He should have recognized that germaneness would be challenged on SB 1581 once SB 5 was removed. I'm now thinking that the GOP rhetoric about supporting campus carry is just that - rhetoric. They have no real interest in the issue. They're simply trying to placate us without making any real changes.
I saw this one coming the second I heard of the deal he made to remove the amendment from SB5. Campus carry was germane to SB1851 due to SB5. Once SB5 was removed from SB1851 then campus carry was no longer germane. Looks like he is the only one that didn't see it. He is either naive or incompetent.
Just popped in to pass that along,2-subject is a constitutional rule, not parliamentary, so no unfortunately. not a 2/3 suspend the rule deal
Not a chance, I suspect. The governor would have to specifically add that as an allowed topic, and it's very unlikely he will do so. He could have done it 2 years ago when campus carry died at the end of the session because of the Democrats stalling the voter ID bill and he didn't.RPB wrote:Wonder if CampusCarry can be re-introduced in Special Session?
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Wonder who the next Speaker of the House will be?
I said "if" for precisely that reason. I'm willing to be patient a little while longer. Heck, I'll even give them until my first day of class for the Fall 2011 semester.Coogan wrote:Call me an optimist, but I don't think its over yet. The NRA and TSRA have been known to pull a rabbit out of a hat. I think there is more going on behind the scenes.
Coogan wrote:Call me an optimist, but I don't think its over yet. The NRA and TSRA have been known to pull a rabbit out of a hat. I think there is more going on behind the scenes.
Sen. Wentworth is neither. The result would have been the same if SB5 have passed with campus-carry. The core germane rule was not the problem; the problem is the House rule against two totally different subject matters in the same bill. Although some portions of campus-carry were germane, it required extensive amendments to the Penal Code as well as amendments to Chp. 411 of the Gov't Code. Folks, when the two Senators went back on their word and didn't support suspending the rules to bring up SB354, then everything thereafter was Plan B, Plan C, . . .JJVP wrote:baldeagle wrote:Am I the only one thinking that Senator Wentworth is stupid? He never should have allowed the campus carry amendment, which passed the Senate, to be removed from SB 5. He should have recognized that germaneness would be challenged on SB 1581 once SB 5 was removed. I'm now thinking that the GOP rhetoric about supporting campus carry is just that - rhetoric. They have no real interest in the issue. They're simply trying to placate us without making any real changes.
