Fox 7 Austin on Handgun training

[The Mad Moderate]

fox ran a segment tonight about further training after a CHL in austin. Austin may be more liberal than the rest of Texas but I honestly think it is as pro-gun as anywhere in texas.

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/cri ... 0611-ktbcw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[RPB]

I saw that last night.

I might take that course, BUT I didn't care for Steve Wolf and the Newscaster's (and their previews all week of this) where they dissed the standard CHL training itself .... could have been worded better without dissing the training every CHL gets already. imho.
I mean Colleges don't in Advanced Accounting class tell you that College Accounting Course wasn't good enough...
No one really complains that basic Driver's Education "isn't enough" but we all know it's there to teach only basics.

Steve's criticism of the basic course, along with his choice of web domain name ( http://badassschool.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ) .... indicates to me, an older more mature person with probably more years of firearm experience than Steve has been alive, something I won't express here about him.... That's just my impression/opinion... he could easily change that opinion/first impression and possibly get more business.... I see "potential pitfalls" in his critical forward thinking/planning ...

I'm interested in reading their "Warranty"

Says they'll "back you up" I guess in Court .... so, in Court they'll confirm when you say ..."Yes, I went to "BadAssSchool" ( http://badassschool.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ) ummm that should help your case ... (I retired from a Legal Assistant position after 25 years in a law firm ... I'm not sure Juries would take that statement as a "good thing" ... learning to be a ...)

Still, looks like a decent course and I might take it.... I just hope I never have to tell a jury "I took a course at BadAssSchool" because I am licensed and carry for defensive purposes ONLY (been robbed with guns at my head and forced to the floor by 2 armed men once, robbed by 7 armed men another time, and held at knifepoint in a Campus parking lot) I am not armed so I can be a "badass" bully etc.


As I said, looks like some interesting courses I might take ... I'm not dissing the instructors' knowledge, experience, qualifications, nor tactics.

Read more: http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/cri ... z1P4ESfXwW" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wolf's course also offers something that no other concealed handguns course does, a warranty.

Wolf says as long as your concealed handguns license is maintained, they will back you up if you use a firearm in a justified use of deadly force for self defense or an innocent third party.

They also teach other courses, defensive shotgun, edged weapons, hand to hand combat etc. A course I DON'T see is "Handgun RETENTION" ... He should add that IMHO. Even if it's a simple "Pin and Spin" and a few other techniques.

http://badassschool.com/courses.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
some might be interesting

The "Warranty" is on this page ...
http://badassschool.com/chl.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I have no affiliation with them, just heard of them on TV last night.

[tacticool]

Advanced training beyond the basics is great, whether we're talking about first aid, concealed carry, or driving. However, based on the attitude demonstrated by that instructor, I wouldn't spend a dime on his batman license classes.

[Apophis]

Does his domain name read "bad ass school" ?

Is that really a smart/business/legally wise decision to name your company training people to DEFEND themselves?

I can see it now, someone in the court of law being tried for a SD shooting.

"Yea, John Doe went to bad ass school, that's why he shot xyz"

[Tamie]

Wolf's course also offers something that no other concealed handguns course does, a warranty.

Wolf says as long as your concealed handguns license is maintained, they will back you up if you use a firearm in a justified use of deadly force for self defense or an innocent third party.

If you call them during a burglary, will their backup arrive quicker than if you call 911?

[chasfm11]

I gotta be honest. I watch things like the shooting where the BG gets off of a subway train, walks to the front of a pizza joint and guns down a young man standing there. One of the comments in the thread that referenced that incident included a phrase like " you have to bring your A game." I don't have that kind of a an "A" game and probably never will. Faced with those same circumstances, I'm probably going to be dead, just like the poor guy in the video.

I keep reading Excaliber's posts and realize that my success with my CC will depend on.
1. My recognizing a developing situation in sufficient time to act
2. Practicing enough that I have the capability of acting, not just in producing my CC in a timely way but executing shot placement well enough to stop the threat.

I've decided that a lot of things have to come together perfectly for me to be able to deal with that kind of a worst case situation. Those odds have not been in my favor since I got my CHL but I'm hoping that the reading and the practicing that I've been doing since then are bringing those odds to better parity.

All that said, I see rhetoric like this report in the "magic bullet" light. "Just come and take my course and you will be instantly healed from all of your infirmities." Horse feathers. My opinion is that those that are competent to help me get to the results that I'm seeking don't have to advertize their testosterone level to attract my attention. I don't see the logic as "there is a problem and I have the only solution to it." When I'm done with the class, I'm still left with my own capabilities of understanding and executing what I was taught. The lion's share of success still rests on my own shoulders.

I also believe that not every bad situation that we might face on a daily basis is going to be that worst case. I fully understand that I cannot count on the BG that comes after me being stupid and inept. But I also believe that there are stupid and inept BGs that might try me. I try to train for the worst but hope that I'll be able to handle things from the almost worst on down. I'm not going to stop carrying because I haven't yet reached what is an "A" game in my mind.