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The nail clipper threat was solved after 9/11. Cola bombs are the new international terrorist threat.OldSchool wrote:We've found gate inspections at all international flights back to the U.S. They have taken away bottles of soda that we've bought in the secure area!! This sounds as if TSA is moving to prepare us for more screening.
Wait till al-queda tries to put a bomb in an iPhone or a laptop. You wouldn't be able to get past security with anything more advanced than a digital watch.WildBill wrote:The nail clipper threat was solved after 9/11. Cola bombs are the new international terrorist threat.OldSchool wrote:We've found gate inspections at all international flights back to the U.S. They have taken away bottles of soda that we've bought in the secure area!! This sounds as if TSA is moving to prepare us for more screening.
I thought they simply had to outlaw standard Mentos to take care of that...WildBill wrote:The nail clipper threat was solved after 9/11. Cola bombs are the new international terrorist threat.
They already put one in a printer cartridge, I'm surprised we can take laptops onboard.loadedliberal wrote:Wait till al-queda tries to put a bomb in an iPhone or a laptop. You wouldn't be able to get past security with anything more advanced than a digital watch.WildBill wrote:The nail clipper threat was solved after 9/11. Cola bombs are the new international terrorist threat.OldSchool wrote:We've found gate inspections at all international flights back to the U.S. They have taken away bottles of soda that we've bought in the secure area!! This sounds as if TSA is moving to prepare us for more screening.
She said security personnel then came out and told her they would need for her mother to remove her diaper because it was soiled and was impeding their search.
The 10yo daughter rule prohibits me from commenting the way that I would like to.Koshetz said the procedures are the same for everyone to ensure national security.
“TSA cannot exempt any group from screening because we know from intelligence that there are terrorists out there that would then exploit that vulnerability,” she said.
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Panama City Newshearld June 25, 2011 12:41:00 PM LAUREN SAGE REINLIE / Florida Freedom Newspapers
http://www.newsherald.com/news/mother-9 ... adult.html
She said security personnel then came out and told her they would need for her mother to remove her diaper because it was soiled and was impeding their search.The 10yo daughter rule prohibits me from commenting the way that I would like to.Koshetz said the procedures are the same for everyone to ensure national security.
“TSA cannot exempt any group from screening because we know from intelligence that there are terrorists out there that would then exploit that vulnerability,” she said.
Because the country is run by idiots, and most americans are more concerned about voting in American Idol than the general election.TexasGal wrote:On the news today;
95 year old lady with cancer in a wheelchair. Her depends was wet and could not be completely felt up by the TSA screener so the agent told the daughter her mother would have to take it off. The daughter offered to just take her to the bathroom and put on a "dry" one. Nope. Had to take it off.
This all makes me feel like the bad guys have won already. They have taken the dignity of even our most elderly and ill who just want to fly--perhaps to visit loved ones for the last time. If other countries who have dealt with terrorism for a long time don't do it this way. Why do we?
I had no idea being in a bad mood, or in a hurry was an offense warranting detention. Thanks, knowing is half the battle.b322da wrote:Just to show that this group is not unanimous here, if I were a TSA agent with the statutory auhority this person no doubt had, and a passenger approached me with the attitude you have admitted to, I would have done exactly the same thing as was done to you. <SNIP>
The TSA's primary mission is conditioning. Seems like you haven't learned the lesson that TSA is trying very hard to teach us: know your place, be an obedient serf, and keep your mouth shut. If you don't worship authority you're going to be punished. You don't question authority in today's America unless you're rich or are a glutton for punishment. You really need to start getting used to it because that's becoming the defining dynamic of all encounters with those in "authority" and it is going to become an increasingly prominent feature of all our lives. Even here, where people are ostensibly concerned with things like the Bill of Rights, there are some who seem to welcome all displays of government power not directed against gun rights. In the general population most people seem to worship authority and apologize for its abuses, so things are likely to get much worse.Kythas wrote:Not going into detail about this but wanted a general idea of whether I'll be spinning my wheels or not.
Yesterday I was taking a flight from Boston's Logan Airport back home to DFW. At the gate I was singled out to have my bags searched by the TSA.
Now, I have two bad legs and the weather in New England yesterday had them both screaming at me, so I was in none too good of a mood as it was. I simply wanted to get on the plane and sit down to relieve my legs of the weight.
So I was a bit exasperated at being selected, but put my backpack on the table. I asked the TSA guy if he could please make it quick because my legs were hurting, I was first in the line for a reason, and now all these other people are getting on the plane in front of me which will increase the amount of time I have to stand in pain.
This caused him to actually do things much slower. After asking him to please hurry up several times, he then wanted to check my other carry on item, my ID, and my boarding pass. After complaining to him about this and asking if I was legally required to show him my ID, I asked if he could please hurry up and search through my things so I could get on the plane. He then stated "You're not getting on this plane" and called the police.
Long story short, after asking him if I had broken any laws (no), was I under arrest (no), if I'm not under arrest, can I get my things and get on the plane (no), why am I being detained (wait for the police), was he finished with his search (yes), had he found any prohibited items (no), then can I get on the plane (no), why am I being detained (you have to wait for the police), under what authority are you detaining me (the police will talk to you) the police finally got to the gate and let me get my bags and get on the plane.
I'm seriously considering filing charges against this agent for unlawful arrest, and a possible suit against him and the TSA, as I believe he overstepped his authority as a TSA agent and this was an abuse of power. Any thoughts? Am I wasting my time and money if I do? Specifically, I would file complaints of violation of my Fourth Amendment rights and violation of civil rights under 42 U.S.C. §1983 and the Massachusetts Civil Rights Act (M.G.L. c. 12, sec 11).
No. They merely asked me if my confrontation with the TSA agent had become physical at any point. When I told them it hadn't, they said I could go.MasterOfNone wrote:Kythas, since the answer to all your questions was "wait for the police," did any get answered when the police arrived, such as why you were being detained after the search was completed with nothing found?
I have inquiries out to the Massachusetts ACLU about that exact thing, along with violations of my civil rights under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 and the Massachusetts Civil Rights Act.jordanmills wrote:Should have asked to file a criminal complaint against the blue-shirted pervert for unlawful restraint, kidnapping, or whatever the equivalent is for it in that state.
Massachusetts Civil Rights Act:42 U.S.C. § 1983 wrote:Every person who under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, Suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress
Mass. General Law Ch 12, Section 11 wrote: Section 11H. Whenever any person or persons, whether or not acting under color of law, interfere by threats, intimidation or coercion, or attempt to interfere by threats, intimidation or coercion, with the exercise or enjoyment by any other person or persons of rights secured by the constitution or laws of the United States, or of rights secured by the constitution or laws of the commonwealth, the attorney general may bring a civil action for injunctive or other appropriate equitable relief in order to protect the peaceable exercise or enjoyment of the right or rights secured. Said civil action shall be brought in the name of the commonwealth and shall be instituted either in the superior court for the county in which the conduct complained of occurred or in the superior court for the county in which the person whose conduct complained of resides or has his principal place of business.
Section 11I. Any person whose exercise or enjoyment of rights secured by the constitution or laws of the United States, or of rights secured by the constitution or laws of the commonwealth, has been interfered with, or attempted to be interfered with, as described in section 11H, may institute and prosecute in his own name and on his own behalf a civil action for injunctive and other appropriate equitable relief as provided for in said section, including the award of compensatory money damages. Any aggrieved person or persons who prevail in an action authorized by this section shall be entitled to an award of the costs of the litigation and reasonable attorneys’ fees in an amount to be fixed by the court.
