Then why are they not protesting the colleges and universities that have raised the tuition rate way above the CPI (year over year) and give employees lifetime employment without much possibility of losing their job? BTW just how many have dual masters in chemistry and bio-chemistry? My guess no more than two!XnTx wrote:If the system doesn't work, what's wrong with going outside the system? So they didn't join the Tea Party, but started their own party. Does that makes them juvenile or commie? They are disaffected just like the rest of us. Not all of them are snot nosed kids living on government handouts while mom does their laundry. Some are dual masters in chemistry and bio-chemistry trying to make life work in a wheelchair while receiving no government assistance and can't catch a break. Cliches, slogans, and dogmatic diatribes are not solving the problem.
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74novaman wrote:The greatest answer to the question of "What are they protesting?"
"Growing up"
The good news is I have zero doubt these wall street protests will soon be over. The first good cold snap that hits new york, they'll scurry back to their moms basements and vw buses. The ones in LA might go a bit longer, but the NY protests should be over in a month or less.
I LOVE IT! Ah poor babies having a hard time finding a 50k job right out of college. Welcome to the real world. Take that entry level position at $10 an hour and see where it might put you. Don't whine about things you can't change--protesting banks is going to do absolutely nothing. At least the tea party protests things it can change--politicians.
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Perfect.
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So let me get this straight TAM the Tea Party protesting bailouts and reckless spending is patriotic and these people protesting banks and the benefits the top 1% get are parasites and commies?
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The difference is that the Tea Party protested government interference in capitalism while the "occupy" groups are protesting capitalism itself.
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And I can't find a reference to Tea Party supporters being arrested for disobeying the law.
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Their policy proposals stink as badly as they do.
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I want to make signs and carry them down there...
Big corporations consisting of China poster board manufacturers would like to thank OWS for purchasing their products to make signs.
Coleman Corporation thanks OWS protestors for purchasing their tents
Tarp manufacturers who make the tarps you are covering up with from oil, ... would like to thank ...
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Most of the Flea Party folks I see are anarhcists, marxists, and other haters of America. Many of us have grievances with "Wall Street", but we are not advocating the destruction of America.The Mad Moderate wrote:So let me get this straight TAM the Tea Party protesting bailouts and reckless spending is patriotic and these people protesting banks and the benefits the top 1% get are parasites and commies?
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News tonight showed them marching to Bank of America to all withdraw all their money to cause a run on the bank, like in the Depression..
One guy said "I withdrew my life's savings"
I'm wondering if he'll leave it in his sleeping bag, or spend that $3.00 on more posterboard and magic markers.
By December he may want a Coleman sleeping bag and tent from Academy or WalMart instead of a Tarp ...
Lower right corner of this web page has "Schedule of Events" through at least Jan 2012, but I thought the world was supposed to end before that http://occupyaustin.org/general-assembly/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm thinking of opening a booth to sell stuff to them, posterboard, Markers,. coleman stoves etc and capitalize off the anti-capitalists .. Cash only (no checks from closed accounts)
One guy said "I withdrew my life's savings"
I'm wondering if he'll leave it in his sleeping bag, or spend that $3.00 on more posterboard and magic markers.
By December he may want a Coleman sleeping bag and tent from Academy or WalMart instead of a Tarp ...
Lower right corner of this web page has "Schedule of Events" through at least Jan 2012, but I thought the world was supposed to end before that http://occupyaustin.org/general-assembly/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm thinking of opening a booth to sell stuff to them, posterboard, Markers,. coleman stoves etc and capitalize off the anti-capitalists .. Cash only (no checks from closed accounts)
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I feel for the ones who are truly hurting and just trying to stay afloat...
...but I'm pretty sure most of them are at home working their butts off, and not marching in a glorious orgy of immaturity
...but I'm pretty sure most of them are at home working their butts off, and not marching in a glorious orgy of immaturity
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Can't occupy anything if you're occupying a job.MadMonkey wrote:I feel for the ones who are truly hurting and just trying to stay afloat...
...but I'm pretty sure most of them are at home working their butts off, and not marching in a glorious orgy of immaturity
I'm willing to bet a lot of these people are occupying one of the following places:
Social Security Disability
Welfare
Daddy's pocketbook
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There's a Tumblr somewhere that shows a bunch of the 99% pics. From what I saw during a quick browse, it looks like the majority are finishing college and unable to find high-paying jobs, and whining about how far into debt they are. Or, they're complaining that they're single mothers/fathers... or, they've maxed out their unemployment and can't continue their entitled lifestyle.74novaman wrote:Can't occupy anything if you're occupying a job.MadMonkey wrote:I feel for the ones who are truly hurting and just trying to stay afloat...
...but I'm pretty sure most of them are at home working their butts off, and not marching in a glorious orgy of immaturity
I'm willing to bet a lot of these people are occupying one of the following places:
Social Security Disability
Welfare
Daddy's pocketbook
It's pretty sad to see people blaming their issues on everything but their own lousy decisions. I decided not to go to college when I was very young; by the time I graduated high school, I had had enough and wanted to start working immediately (parents couldn't afford college for me anyway). I worked crap jobs, never making more than 30k at my BEST one, until a couple of months ago when I finally got the job I had been trying to get for a couple of years.
But even during that time, I lived below my means, and figured out how to live so cheaply and simply that I STILL had money for guns and my other hobbies, still had two working vehicles, was able to afford a decent apartment, etc. because I didn't have a problem with not making piles of money. Life is tough, but it's definitely doable if you work at it and don't feel like you have to have everything you want.
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Mad monkey, agree 100%. I was fortunate enough to have my parents help me pay for college, though most of the bill was footed by loans. My degree is in history. Not the most marketable, but I plan on eventually getting a doctorate and writing books. After school, decided I was in enough debt for now and started working.
Unfortunately for me, I'm down from 1 full time job to 2 part time jobs. But, I'm paying off my loans, paying my bills and have enough savings to keep doing both for 6 months if I lost both jobs tomorrow.
Looking back, would I have done things differently? Absolutely. But no one put a gun go my head and forced me to go to school or borrow money and if working several part time jobs is what it takes to pay my bills and not live in the parents basement I'm happy to do it.
These kids protesting weren't forced to borrow 100k. They need to grow up, find what work is available and take some responsibility for their own lives.
Unfortunately for me, I'm down from 1 full time job to 2 part time jobs. But, I'm paying off my loans, paying my bills and have enough savings to keep doing both for 6 months if I lost both jobs tomorrow.
Looking back, would I have done things differently? Absolutely. But no one put a gun go my head and forced me to go to school or borrow money and if working several part time jobs is what it takes to pay my bills and not live in the parents basement I'm happy to do it.
These kids protesting weren't forced to borrow 100k. They need to grow up, find what work is available and take some responsibility for their own lives.
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