OC at home with visitors?
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If I only carried one gun (no BUGs) I wouldn't open carry in the yard for everyone to know where on my body it's located.
I never show my hole card(s) though. And, my city is pretty conservative, lots of armed people, but oddly they dislike gun stores... unless they also sell mufflers, do taxidermy, sell ice cream or something else too.
I never show my hole card(s) though. And, my city is pretty conservative, lots of armed people, but oddly they dislike gun stores... unless they also sell mufflers, do taxidermy, sell ice cream or something else too.
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I actually thought he'd seen it. His body language told me he was nervous about something or holding back, so I asked. I just assumed it was the firearm.Commander Cody wrote:Just curious… why did you ask him if asked him if it made him nervous?
Come to find out he was somewhat less than honest when it came to some parts pricing and installation costs.
I wouldn't have asked him if I didn't already know something was up. Again, I make no apologies.
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RPB wrote:I open carry (Jeans or cargo shorts, no shirt when:
talking to Jehovah's Witnesses or similar who visit on my porch
i think that is the most important one of all.
inviting them in for some beers and a group rub down will get them to go away.
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I would OC all the time anyways if it were legal in Texas, but I've lived in OC states and feel comfortable with it already. I do so at home all the time because when I step outside the front door to go somewhere else, I have to make a point of concealing it in the first place (the one exception being when it's so hot that the only reasonable option I have is my LCP in the pocket). I prefer OC over CC because 1) no need to dress around the gun I feel like carrying, 2) no need to sacrifice capacity for size, 3) no need to sacrifice draw speed for effective concealment, 4) no need to debate either maybe getting sweat on my gun or dressing in an unnecessary layer, and 5) the draw from an OWB holster is more natural to my hands than IWB. Additionally, I'm not responsible for the general public feeling warm n' fuzzy; I've learned from personal experience that 90% or so of all OC interactions you have are positive or at least neutral, with much more inquisitive questions than condemnations. The 10% who don't like it are irredeemable and you're wasting your time trying to tell them that anyone but cops should have guns, so I just brush them off. My comfort and happiness don't take a back seat to some smelly hoplophobic hippy. And if you have a proper holster and a modicum of situational awareness (which everyone here claims to have when asked), no one's going to snatch your gun out of the blue, just to mention that fallacy.
I mean not to get off topic. Everyone who comes to my home regularly loves guns as well, and me carrying around them isn't an issue. I invite my friends to uncover and be comfortable in the summer heat as well, if they feel like it. And I don't open the door for a person I don't recognize unless I have a pistol on me, which almost always means OWB. I've never had a reaction, period, from any delivery man, pizza guy, or evangelist. Last year I opened the door to a HPD officer who was responding to someone kicking on our front door at 4am as I rested a double-barrel shotgun on my shoulder, and he seemed happy that I was prepared in case the guy actually managed to get in.
I mean not to get off topic. Everyone who comes to my home regularly loves guns as well, and me carrying around them isn't an issue. I invite my friends to uncover and be comfortable in the summer heat as well, if they feel like it. And I don't open the door for a person I don't recognize unless I have a pistol on me, which almost always means OWB. I've never had a reaction, period, from any delivery man, pizza guy, or evangelist. Last year I opened the door to a HPD officer who was responding to someone kicking on our front door at 4am as I rested a double-barrel shotgun on my shoulder, and he seemed happy that I was prepared in case the guy actually managed to get in.
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I rarely have visiters, when I do it's my parents. They know I carry all the time so I don't cover it. If using my OWB holster they can see it, using my IWB then it stays covered like normal.
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When I carry, it's always concealed. The only exception is when I'm hunting.
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Alot of my friends (coworkers many times) come over and put their weapons on the fridge if it's for poker or beer and cigars night. I dont usually carry at home, I prefer to keep a weapon nearby.
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My normal carry rig is IWB with an undershirt plus a shirt. If it's too hot inside I might wander the house without my "cover" shirt, but that doesn't happen very often when my roommate or I have company.
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Nope. Kind of like walking around in tighty-whities. Creates an awkward atmosphere.
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alvins wrote:RPB wrote:I open carry (Jeans or cargo shorts, no shirt when:
talking to Jehovah's Witnesses or similar who visit on my porch
i think that is the most important one of all.
inviting them in for some beers and a group rub down will get them to go away.

I usually keep them on the porch an hour or so, till they get frustrated and go away (lots of pastors in my family

I usually tell them to come back any time ... they never do.

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I invited a couple of Mormons in to talk once while I was holding our growling and snarling 140lb mastiff by the collar. They actually went for it, too, but my mom came home a couple minites afterwards told them we weren't interested (after sending me and dog to the other side of the house).RPB wrote:alvins wrote:RPB wrote:I open carry (Jeans or cargo shorts, no shirt when:
talking to Jehovah's Witnesses or similar who visit on my porch
i think that is the most important one of all.
inviting them in for some beers and a group rub down will get them to go away.![]()
I usually keep them on the porch an hour or so, till they get frustrated and go away (lots of pastors in my family)
I usually tell them to come back any time ... they never do.
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I'm very picky about whom I let into my home these days - so typically I don't hesitate to OC when at home. All of my close friends whom enter my "ultilitarian hovel" know that I love my guns and they are used to seeing firearm accessories and whatnot throughout the house. Perhaps I'm messy but I will often hve a spare holster sitting on my coffee table with either a spare mag, snap caps, cleaning patches or oil, etc. I dont intentionally leave these things out, but again, it is MY home afterall so I dont hesitate to carry openly. In the rare instance that someone I'm unfamiliar with or whom is just that uncomfortable with guns I will conceal or have it in a safe, but quickly accessible area.
I suppose it depends on the atmosphere and how I feel too. If someone is coming over for
or an ultra nice dinner (like that ever happens! Lol) then I'll conceal or hide it. Or, If i have buddies coming over to hang out, we'll probably crack open a few cold ones so I definitely would not carry in that situation.
I'm accustomed to doing my daily house work with my Glock 17 OWB in a fobus holster on pretty much a daily basis. Sometimes that means answering the door unexpectedly, and I'll usually just place my body at an angle so as to obscure the line of sight to my firearm (in addition to keeping the door only particularly cracked). If I have to go out front to throe out the trash or what not, I'll just throw a light jacket on for cover and go quickly. I often hang out clothes to line dry in my backyard (I live in an older home with no dryer hook up) while OC'ing as well. My backyard doesnt offer much in the way of privacy as i have homes on either side of me and I merely have a plain old chain link/rock wall fence combo that you can see right through. I do try to be careful when in the back yard as both of my neighbors are elderly and I dont want them to freak out - the likely hood of them seeing anything isn't too high though since I'm usually obscured by the very laundry I'm hanging to dry.
I suppose, for me, it really just depends on the situation but I generally don't hesitate to OC at home if someone is over as they should know me better than to think I'm a loon for carrying at home.
I suppose it depends on the atmosphere and how I feel too. If someone is coming over for
or an ultra nice dinner (like that ever happens! Lol) then I'll conceal or hide it. Or, If i have buddies coming over to hang out, we'll probably crack open a few cold ones so I definitely would not carry in that situation.
I'm accustomed to doing my daily house work with my Glock 17 OWB in a fobus holster on pretty much a daily basis. Sometimes that means answering the door unexpectedly, and I'll usually just place my body at an angle so as to obscure the line of sight to my firearm (in addition to keeping the door only particularly cracked). If I have to go out front to throe out the trash or what not, I'll just throw a light jacket on for cover and go quickly. I often hang out clothes to line dry in my backyard (I live in an older home with no dryer hook up) while OC'ing as well. My backyard doesnt offer much in the way of privacy as i have homes on either side of me and I merely have a plain old chain link/rock wall fence combo that you can see right through. I do try to be careful when in the back yard as both of my neighbors are elderly and I dont want them to freak out - the likely hood of them seeing anything isn't too high though since I'm usually obscured by the very laundry I'm hanging to dry.
I suppose, for me, it really just depends on the situation but I generally don't hesitate to OC at home if someone is over as they should know me better than to think I'm a loon for carrying at home.

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Would that be considered "federal property"?RPB wrote:The UPS and Fedex guys don't seem to mind either, and the neighbors laugh when I tell them I'm not allowed to cross the street unless I put a shirt on so they need to talk louder, come over here, or hold on while I either get a shirt or pitch my gun in the bushes/hide it in the mailbox so I can cross the street....

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I bought n paid for it at the hardware store, I even bought n paid for the post and concrete and shovel to plant it.3dfxMM wrote:Would that be considered "federal property"?RPB wrote:The UPS and Fedex guys don't seem to mind either, and the neighbors laugh when I tell them I'm not allowed to cross the street unless I put a shirt on so they need to talk louder, come over here, or hold on while I either get a shirt or pitch my gun in the bushes/hide it in the mailbox so I can cross the street....
I'll consider it Federal Property when they put a check in the box reimbursing me.

But you make a good point, I never looked up what it might be "legally" still, they'll need due process of law to take my property ... which some regulation may have done.

Since I parked it in concrete, maybe it's a Federal park, which would generally be ok, except inside when a federal employee is working in it.
However, I don't have it in there when any Federal employees are working inside it

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I decided to just go ahead and ask if she would be uncomfortable and her reply was, "Heck no!" All went well and we had a great evening. When my daughter wanted to get a few pictures we gathered together and our guest sarcastically asked, "That thing's not going to go off is it?" I, of course, sarcastically replied that I didn't think it would, but that flashes of light might make it go off.
Did I mention she's from Illinois? No where near Chicago and has her own little ranch with a couple of horses, but we all know that most of Illinois is nothing like Chicago.
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