My first 30.06 encounter.

[stroguy]

Seen plenty of 51% signs but this is my first at Chuck E Cheese at 242 and 45 in Conroe.

[C-dub]

Looks kinda small.

[mikeintexas]

If it is the same sign as the one in Grand Prairie off I-20, then it is too small.

[stroguy]

It seems to be a form sign for the franchise and yes I suspect it is to small. The location was past the front double doors and then on the wall to the right in the foyer. If you didn't scan you would not see it.

[C-dub]

Just keep in mind the whole story about the nurse that beat the rap, but still took the ride. I'm sure this place thinks this sign is legitimate and will call the police if they discover your gun and it is likely you will take a ride.

[wharvey]

Went to a part at a Chuck E Cheese in Corpus. Was still carrying under my Indiana License but knew to scan for these signs. Finally found the sign on a wall as exiting. Only way to see it was to either be walking out or looking behind you while you are walking forward. To make it worse it was too small, mixed in with other signs and blended in very well with the wall decorations. It was like they were hiding it via the THE PURLOINED LETTER.

I don't know if anyone has had to take a ride due to this stealth sign postings but if so a law need to be added which will penalize businesses who do not post these notices correctly. We have to know the laws and so should they. But then I also think companies who ignore SB321 in there employee policies should also be penalized.

[stroguy]

Just keep in mind the whole story about the nurse that beat the rap, but still took the ride. I'm sure this place thinks this sign is legitimate and will call the police if they discover your gun and it is likely you will take a ride.

I did return my pistola to the car, a bit annoyed but what are you going to do? Make a scene? I was there for a birthday party. Just glad some despondent father or mother from a bad divorce were not attending another party hahahaha. Weirder things have happened.

[Jumping Frog]

I don't know if anyone has had to take a ride due to this stealth sign postings but if so a law need to be added which will penalize businesses who do not post these notices correctly. .

Bad, bad idea.

As any business owner knows, there are sign companies that make their living bombarding businesses with compliance signs. Make a change in the law that could actually penalize a business, and all the sign companies will be sending their direct mailers with dire warnings about "DO TO RECENT LAW CHANGE ALL BUSINESSES MUST POST THE ENCLOSED SIGNS!".

I swear, 3/4 of the businesses that get posted in other states like Ohio, where only a gun buster sign is needed, get their compliance packages in the mail and hang up the new signs without questioning them. These compliance packages are the typical minimum wage notice, unemployment, etc., sometimes no smoking signs, and gun buster signs.

Penalize businesses for the wrong sign will have the unintended consequence of many businesses being provided the correct 30.06 sign and posting it unquestioningly.

Furthermore, to your original point, it is never to the advantage of the CHL community to take a business that is posting 30.06 ineffectively and teach them how to do it correctly.

[speedsix]

...far as I can see..when they do it wrong...they're doing it just right...why "penalize" them for giving me what I want???

[Ruark]

As any business owner knows, there are sign companies that make their living bombarding businesses with compliance signs. Make a change in the law that could actually penalize a business, and all the sign companies will be sending their direct mailers with dire warnings about "DO TO RECENT LAW CHANGE ALL BUSINESSES MUST POST THE ENCLOSED SIGNS!".

I swear, 3/4 of the businesses that get posted in other states like Ohio, where only a gun buster sign is needed, get their compliance packages in the mail and hang up the new signs without questioning them. These compliance packages are the typical minimum wage notice, unemployment, etc., sometimes no smoking signs, and gun buster signs.

Penalize businesses for the wrong sign will have the unintended consequence of many businesses being provided the correct 30.06 sign and posting it unquestioningly.

Furthermore, to your original point, it is never to the advantage of the CHL community to take a business that is posting 30.06 ineffectively and teach them how to do it correctly.

Absolutely!!! If a business is posting an incorrect/unenforceable no-guns sign, NEVER call their attention to it (that includes attention from legislators). Let them think they're posting the correct sign, which allows you to continue to legally CC.

But you're absolutely right: if new legislation or publicity about correct 30.06 sign design occurred, every small business in the state would be getting those compliance sign packages in the mail - and posting them.

[wharvey]

I don't know if anyone has had to take a ride due to this stealth sign postings but if so a law need to be added which will penalize businesses who do not post these notices correctly. .

Bad, bad idea.

As any business owner knows, there are sign companies that make their living bombarding businesses with compliance signs. Make a change in the law that could actually penalize a business, and all the sign companies will be sending their direct mailers with dire warnings about "DO TO RECENT LAW CHANGE ALL BUSINESSES MUST POST THE ENCLOSED SIGNS!".

I don't entirely disagree with what you are saying and I'm sure not going to point out the error of their ways, but if I got busted do to an improper sign I'd be a little more that peeved about it. If you walked past a gun buster sign, here in Texas, the store manager called the police and the officer was so dumb as to actually arrest you, wouldn't it make you a little mad and want some sort of penalty imposed. (In this case both against the store for not following the law, and the police officer for not knowing it) As it now stands we who legally carry are the only ones held accountable and that in my opinion is wrong.

[TxFig]

Just keep in mind the whole story about the nurse that beat the rap, but still took the ride. I'm sure this place thinks this sign is legitimate and will call the police if they discover your gun and it is likely you will take a ride.

I see this kind of post over and over again.


Having liberty and excising one's God-given rights (which were then enumerated in the Constitution) comes with a cost - one that must be paid for over and over again.

If everyone is afraid to take the ride, then the right will go away and we'll be right back to where we were when we started (or worse).
Personally, I'll take that ride. I wish more patriots would as well.

[speedsix]

...move over, I'm sittin' by the window!!!!!!!

[Jumping Frog]

It never hurts to remember "concealed means concealed".

[C-dub]

Just keep in mind the whole story about the nurse that beat the rap, but still took the ride. I'm sure this place thinks this sign is legitimate and will call the police if they discover your gun and it is likely you will take a ride.

I see this kind of post over and over again.


Having liberty and excising one's God-given rights (which were then enumerated in the Constitution) comes with a cost - one that must be paid for over and over again.

If everyone is afraid to take the ride, then the right will go away and we'll be right back to where we were when we started (or worse).
Personally, I'll take that ride. I wish more patriots would as well.

Just pointing out the obvious. I didn't say I wouldn't carry there if I had to go. Many repeat the rap/ride cliche, but there aren't too many actual examples. One of our members, Handog, went through this down in Round Rock a while back.

Do a search for "Grapevine Mills Mall" and see all fuss their incorrect signs have caused. I don't go there if I can avoid it, but not because of the signs. When I have gone there I've carried every time since getting my license almost 10 years ago.