Stopped by Louisiana State Police

[speedsix]

...two hundred for maximum fine('cause they know he won't challenge it in court) thirty for the df...

[SRH78]

What is df?

[speedsix]

...donut fund, OF COURSE!!!

[Oldgringo]

If he is simply paying the fine for a traffic violation without going to court, there shouldn't be any court costs? EggBanjo, would you mind clearing this up as to whether the $230 includes additional court costs or if it is simply the fine listed on the ticket?

ELB, I agree.

The distribution of the monies is a moot point. It takes $230 for the problem to go away.

[SRH78]

The distribution of the monies is a moot point.

Not necissarily... at least for discussion purposes anyway. The law is the law and it applies to everyone including gov't agencies or it isn't worth the paper it is written on. If the fine is in violation of state law... On the other hand, if there is a valid reason, it is simply a curiosity answered.

[SRH78]

...donut fund, OF COURSE!!!

Haha... I needed a good laugh.

[speedsix]

[Keith B]

If he is simply paying the fine for a traffic violation without going to court, there shouldn't be any court costs? EggBanjo, would you mind clearing this up as to whether the $230 includes additional court costs or if it is simply the fine listed on the ticket?




ELB, I agree.

Well, may not really be called Court Costs any longer; may be called Administration Fees. We just called them Court Costs because the court processed all of our violation fines, whether the individual showed up for their court date or plead nolo contendere and just paid the fine.

[EggBanjo]

If he is simply paying the fine for a traffic violation without going to court, there shouldn't be any court costs? EggBanjo, would you mind clearing this up as to whether the $230 includes additional court costs or if it is simply the fine listed on the ticket?

The $230 fee was quoted to me by the sheriff's department this morning. I read the part about 'no more than $200' also but after I was quoted the price by the sheriff's office. I'll find out what the extra $30 is for when I call and inquire about out of state deferred adjudication which will likely be by Friday and then I'll post an update.

[philip964]

Ok so what were you supposed to do that you didn't? He wanted you to handle your gun prior to leaving the car and leave it in the car or tell him sooner while you were still in the car that you were a CHL?

A friend received a ticket here in Houston for speeding at night and the female officer wanted him to exit the car. So it is not always that you remain in the car in Texas. ( I think the officer suspected drinking which was not the case, but none the less she wanted him outside)

I don't do any fiddling around when I am stopped. Both hands on the steering wheel until instructed to get my driver's license.

[EggBanjo]

Ok so what were you supposed to do that you didn't? He wanted you to handle your gun prior to leaving the car and leave it in the car or tell him sooner while you were still in the car that you were a CHL?

The officer expected that I would leave my gun in the car prior to exiting the car to approach him. He also implied that disarming prior to approaching him was something that I would be taught in a CHL class. It was not possible to tell him of the CHL license any sooner as I shouted it out pretty much as soon as I got out of the car while waving both my DL and CHL in the air. Since he never got to my car door, or even my car trunk for that matter, this was the best I could do in this situation.

[terryg]

I really don't see how standing in of the patrol car and wanting the driver who is armed TO PUT A GUN IN HIS HAND (which he would have to do to "disarm") is terribly smart, from an officer safety point of view, especially when the next step is for the driver to get out.

That is exactly what I was thinking. I find it shocking to think that this would be taught as a good idea in the LA CHL class. But then again, it is LA.

[powerboatr]

thanks
wow i will be more vigilant in la, we have to run over there very often.
here i think the dps would get nervy if i squirmed around unloading myself, then got out of the car, they are already nervy enough from other bad people.

i don't like getting out of the car on a highway and walking between my car and another one. to much risk of the blue light draw and his car getting hit by a passer by then me being dead or legless



calm and cool, served you right.....
sorry it cost you 230 duckets,


i had to edit
he said thats why texas troopers get killed from walking up to a driver?
i would think that a driver opening a door, turning to step out and then walk back...would have a great opportunity to do harm to a trooper
driving i carry mine in the door pocket, real easy to draw out unobserved.

a driver keeping both hands on the wheel seems safer to a trooper than a driver getting out and walking back to the trooper
good thing you didn't ask him that, you may have spent a day in the pokey , although i might have mentioned it in passing as we chatted.
but again the mood of the trooper sets the discussions and how you proceed safely. they are under huge stress of doing a traffic stop, and its unfortunate that we do loose leos at these events.

[terryg]

In west Texas, we always considered it polite to walk to the rear of the car.

just sayin'.

But usually we were so lonely, and happy for the chance to talk with someone.

I understand this. In fact, when I was younger, I would always exit the vehicle and go meet the cop at the rear of the car. Until one time, as I was getting out, I was told - very sternly - to 'stay in the vehicle'.

The LEO asking you to join them outside the vehicle seems perfectly legit to me. Expecting you to disarm (and thereby handle your gun) before exiting seems like a recipe for disaster. What would he/she do if they happened to see the gun in the process?