Can A Landlord Do This?

[MoJo]

I would be looking for a new apartment.

[Dave2]

I would be looking for a new apartment.

I might too, depending on if a friend had enough room for me and my stuff to crash for a couple weeks while looking for a new place. If so, I'd invest in a discreet tape recorder and go have a friendly chat with the new landlords. Do be careful recording phone calls, though. AFAIK it's legal if it all stays in TX, but things can get interesting if the other person is in a two-party state.

[texman45]

The funniest/saddest part about this is that this landlord, according to their rules list, is placing legitimate gun owners in the same eviction category as the following:

-Those who do not pay their rent
-Those who damage the rental property
-Those who use, buy or sell illegal drugs
-Those who maintain their apartment in an unsanitary condition
-Those who threaten employees or anyone on the property
-Those who have more than 2 police visits or 1 police raid
-Those who curse, yell or scream at any staff
-Those who have an unauthorized pet
-Those who don't properly care for their pets

How ludicrous is that? Yeah, I realize I have a choice to either get rid of my guns, or hide them and keep my fingers crossed, or move to a more gun-friendly apartment complex. I'm an elderly gent all by myself and not in the greatest physical condition. Finding a new "gun friendly" place and packing my stuff and then setting up a new place would take its toll on me. Plus this place was "gun-friendly" for the five years I've been here before they were bought out. What's to say the new place wouldn't come up with the same rules after I moved in, maybe be bought out by this same out-of-state landlord? I'm not about to give up my guns for these anti-gun snobs. It's a matter of principle. I guess I'll have to write my Texas representative about getting a law passed to stop landlords from doing this, but I really don't think that will do any good. Let's hope the gun control faction doesn't conduct a campaign targeting all landlords across the country to adopt this rule.

[Wes]

What's the worst he can do? Evict you? And how would he find out to evict you? It's not like hes actually gonna check every unit and if he does, can they really open or look in every nook and cranny? I doubt it would be a problem until you had to use it and even then, if you have to use your weapon in your complex, wouldn't you want to move anyways? I don't know, seems crazy, wouldn't want to deal with that myself.

[gigag04]

Landlord can technically do anything until a judge restricts that or the AG (or other Texas Peace Officer) enforces the real estate codes (good luck).

[The Annoyed Man]

Concealed is concealed.

[C-dub]

Concealed is concealed.

There it is. I'm shocked that it took almost two full pages before it showed up.

[RPB]

And how would he find out to evict you?

Apartment Manager has exterminator goes in to exterminate ...
You come home from work and ...Your $1,479 Weatherby is missing ...

OR
Manager sends Maintenance man into ALL Apartments to do an annual "toilet flapper ball replacement"
Liberal Democrat Maintenance guy sees gun case in closet where you know you closed the closet door, but he says it was open, tells manager

[Heartland Patriot]

My dad lives in a senior housing apartment complex. Its one of those automatic gated places, run by some out-of-state company (wasn't when he moved in some time back). They're lucky to get maintenance people to come around, but I can easily see some snooping going on if the resident is away. I can understand both the OPs irritation at the new rules and his concern about finding another place. I'm pretty certain that, despite some of the issues he has had where he lives, that my dad doesn't want to move, either.

(Speaking of that, I really need to call him, thanks for the reminder )

This sure puts the OP in a bad position, but I do think moving is the best bet in this case, if able to do so.

I also think it stinks that some out-of-state company can come push Texans around with their hoplophobic, anti-2A rules.

[knotquiteawake]

I wish our apartment managers were this stupid. I want to buy a house in the next few months but our lease isn't up until July so I'm trying to figure out a way to break the lease without having to pay their fines. If they did this firearms rule thing it would be a dead bang winner to get a crack lawyer (for a couple hundred dollars) to write up a demand letter and then *poof*, no more lease.

[kjolly]

Once again its carpetbaggers that have no idea what Texas is about. If possible it might be time to move maybe to a nice place in the country where you can have your own range.

[Igogzz]

No, in the state of Texas alandlord can not change the lease during the middle of said lease without agreement from both the tenet and the property owner.
I would still move after your lease is up.

[texman45]

My dad lives in a senior housing apartment complex. Its one of those automatic gated places, run by some out-of-state company (wasn't when he moved in some time back). They're lucky to get maintenance people to come around, but I can easily see some snooping going on if the resident is away. I can understand both the OPs irritation at the new rules and his concern about finding another place. I'm pretty certain that, despite some of the issues he has had where he lives, that my dad doesn't want to move, either.
(Speaking of that, I really need to call him, thanks for the reminder )
This sure puts the OP in a bad position, but I do think moving is the best bet in this case, if able to do so.
I also think it stinks that some out-of-state company can come push Texans around with their hoplophobic, anti-2A rules.

Yep HP, pick up the phone and give your dad a call.

Once you get older and slow down a bit, it takes longer to get things done. Lifting stuff is out of the question for me, so if I decided to tell these folks to take their rule and shove it, moving would be a major chore and moving costs on a small fixed Social Security income would be prohibitive. Like I said, in addition to my carry pistol I've got that lever action rifle hanging on the wall and some of my neighbors, as well as the maintenance guy, have already seen it. Luckily I gave the maintenance folks a nice tip for Christmas so I don't think they'll turn me in. I do take the rifle to the range once in awhile, so now I guess I'll have to sneak it to the car under cover of darkness, maybe put it in my guitar case instead of the carrying case. In any event I'm now going to have to take it off the wall and hide it somewhere out of sight. Who would have thought that in my autumn years, especially in Texas, I'd have to be paranoid about having a couple of legal guns in my place. Hoping my neighbors don't turn me in kind of gives me the feeling of what it must have been like living in Nazi Germany or Communist China (before they went capitalist). Just adds to my feeling that I was lucky enough to have seen America's better days.

P.S. That Social Security I'm gettin' is retirement, not disability. I'm still not anywhere near getting back what I put into the system for 35 years.

I don't think I'll be posting anymore about this problem, so I want to thank everyone who offered their opinions.

[philip964]

Check your lease. Does it have a clause substantially similar to the following?

COMMUNITY POLICIES OR RULES. You and all guests and
occupants must comply with any written apartment rules and
community policies, including instructions for care of our property.
Our rules are considered part of this Lease Contract. We may make
reasonable changes to written rules, effective immediately, if they
are distributed and applicable to all units in the apartment
community and do not change dollar amounts on page 1 of this
Lease Contract.

"We may make reasonable changes." Taking away your 2nd amendment would not seem a reasonable change. Maybe this is a New York property management company.

I can not imagine a landlord taking this risk of denying tenants the right to have a gun in their apartment for self protection. Much worse than the risk of a ND and an adjacent tenant was injured.

[A-R]

I can not imagine a landlord taking this risk of denying tenants the right to have a gun in their apartment for self protection. Much worse than the risk of a ND and an adjacent tenant was injured.

But as usual it will probably take someone being killed or seriously injured to make power-mad libtards see (or be forced to admit) the error of their ways ..

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