CHL Renewals Lack of Practice..
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CHL Renewals Lack of Practice..
Why is it someone goes to the trouble of acquiring a CHL and does not practice but once every five years?
Really?
Seriously?
Thumbs behind the slide, two handed-swap from hand to hand loading technique, Horatio Caine's famous wind-up presentation, WOW my gun has a manual safety?, lets point our gun at the concrete ceiling, lets rack the slide until we create a double feed etc...etc...
I know this sounds far fetched but what would happen if we really had to use that gun in self-defense?
Just call me crazy...
Really?
Seriously?
Thumbs behind the slide, two handed-swap from hand to hand loading technique, Horatio Caine's famous wind-up presentation, WOW my gun has a manual safety?, lets point our gun at the concrete ceiling, lets rack the slide until we create a double feed etc...etc...
I know this sounds far fetched but what would happen if we really had to use that gun in self-defense?
Just call me crazy...
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Re: CHL Renewals Lack of Practice..
I'm thinking something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... ZozI#t=89s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... ZozI#t=89s
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When I did my CHL, about half of the class was renewals. During the shooting portion, it seemed that the 'New' CHL'ers we're hitting considerably better than most of the 'Renewal' folks. Some of the renew folks were literally all over the sillouette at the closest distance. I'm suspecting that a couple of them haven't shot their guns since they first got their CHL's, and the 'New' folks may have had more recent experience. That's not to say all of the renewals were like that, but many of them were. It might be bad to say, but I sincerely hope that they really don't carry anymore and are just renewing to keep their license from fully expiring. I know it is controversial to say but think that the practical shooting requirements are way too loose. If you cannot hit, or don't even care to bother to aim a little at a target just a few feet away then please don't carry around me. Just my opinion...
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When I did my CHL, one woman actually made the comment that she hadn't fired her gun since her last renewal. And her first shot proved it--slide bite! I just don't understand that mind set. I get antsy if I don't get to the range at least once a week! In fact, I will probably go again tomorrow because today I had 2 new shooters with me and I didn't get to shoot as much as I wanted to!!
But, on the other hand---I can't tell you when my husband last shot--and I would totally trust him to pick up any weapon and shoot it---accurately!
But, on the other hand---I can't tell you when my husband last shot--and I would totally trust him to pick up any weapon and shoot it---accurately!
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i had a guy in my renewal that put the bullet backward in the magazine.... no joke! i mean it's jammed in there....backwards.
his reason: "i didn't have my glasses on".
his reason: "i didn't have my glasses on".
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What's really scary is most of them don't drive any better than they shoot.
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I go out and practice every month so that I don't forget how to use my gun
CHL would be better off if everyone did the same
CHL would be better off if everyone did the same
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Practice, practice, practice.tommyg wrote:I go out and practice every month so that I don't forget how to use my gun
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yeah. I at lhave been east once a month.
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Yeah, I thought I had a real problem at my re-qualification recently after the first five shots. When I removed the magazine and set it and my gun down I looked up to see only two or three holes in the x-ring. Marty might be able to help out here with the number of holes because I don't remember how many there were. Turns out either three of four of the first five rounds went in the same hole. I had all but two rounds in the X and 9-ring at the end with two floaters up around the collar bone and neck area. I don't where those came from. I was the only one shooting at the time.
I've only really seen one bad shooter at a CHL class and she was advised to get some practice and come back another day for the shooting portion.
I've only really seen one bad shooter at a CHL class and she was advised to get some practice and come back another day for the shooting portion.
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Re: CHL Renewals Lack of Practice..
I would like to add that MOST of the renewals that come through are good to go....the ones that are not ready seem to come in clusters..like last week..
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It amazes me how bad some people are. I have a buddy who came back from working overseas for more than a year. Didn't touch a gun that whole time. Did a new CHL class and shot a 239 cold. The test is really that easy unless somebody has significant physical limitations. He is not a competitive shooter or great athlete. Just a normal guy with normal vision (if he's wearing his contact lenses.).
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When I renewed earlier this year, I had a lady next to me who obviously hadn't touched a gun since she originally got her CHL.
She began by waving her gun all around. Since I was in the lane next to her, this scared me. Thankfully the instructor quickly came up and stopped that. He stuck pretty close through the rest of the qualifying. At 3 yards, she had hits sprayed all over the target. I couldn't tell how she did at the other distances but there was not a grouping on her target when she was done. And there were two holes in the upper left corner of my target (she was to the left of me). Thankfully, the instructor didn't count those against me (I was one point off a perfect score) although I don't think he counted them against her either.
I was happy when that qualification was done.
She began by waving her gun all around. Since I was in the lane next to her, this scared me. Thankfully the instructor quickly came up and stopped that. He stuck pretty close through the rest of the qualifying. At 3 yards, she had hits sprayed all over the target. I couldn't tell how she did at the other distances but there was not a grouping on her target when she was done. And there were two holes in the upper left corner of my target (she was to the left of me). Thankfully, the instructor didn't count those against me (I was one point off a perfect score) although I don't think he counted them against her either.
I was happy when that qualification was done.
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That happened to me. Not only did the girl left of me shoot mine, she also put one in the target to the right of me. She was shooting a 9mm and I my 40 cal. The holes tell the story.
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Just think how it looked to the girl next to you!
Slight drift.... years ago when I was just starting to shoot the Bulls-eye matches here, I was always anxious to see improvement. One night, we started the match, 25 yards, centerfire, slow fire as usual. The first round went straight to the middle of the ten ring. The second hit right next to it, as did the third. I'm thinking to myself, "Wow, this is wonderful, and so easy! Whatever I am doing sure is working." The next rounds were as good, but then I noticed that while I was inspecting my shots, another hole appeared! This was disturbing, and raised questions in my mind.
Sure enough, I had my spotting scope on the next lane's target! All my great shooting disappeared as the scope was adjusted to MY target! I was close but not all ten rings!
Slight drift.... years ago when I was just starting to shoot the Bulls-eye matches here, I was always anxious to see improvement. One night, we started the match, 25 yards, centerfire, slow fire as usual. The first round went straight to the middle of the ten ring. The second hit right next to it, as did the third. I'm thinking to myself, "Wow, this is wonderful, and so easy! Whatever I am doing sure is working." The next rounds were as good, but then I noticed that while I was inspecting my shots, another hole appeared! This was disturbing, and raised questions in my mind.
Sure enough, I had my spotting scope on the next lane's target! All my great shooting disappeared as the scope was adjusted to MY target! I was close but not all ten rings!
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.