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Re: Door To Door Solicitor Today

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VeeTee wrote:Quote:
"HA!! You didn't call the police because he had pot in his pocket. You called the police because you didn't like the way these two fellows looked. One of the guys having pot is just a coincidence.

And it is absolutely wrong to think legit people don't have neck tats and sleeves. I can specifically think of one guy in my church who works with our teen ministry. "

er... Could it be that your "legit" guy is not so "legit?" Remember the BTK guy? He was a boy scout leader and "paragon of his church".

To the OP:

My hat is off to you. If your "reptilian brain" is heaving that alone is good enough - regardless of whether they had tats. With all due respect to anybody who is trying to hang guilt on the OP for having done what he believed was right all I can say to you (respectfully) is "tsk tsk".

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Re: Door To Door Solicitor Today

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Ameer wrote:
VeeTee wrote:Quote:
"HA!! You didn't call the police because he had pot in his pocket. You called the police because you didn't like the way these two fellows looked. One of the guys having pot is just a coincidence.

And it is absolutely wrong to think legit people don't have neck tats and sleeves. I can specifically think of one guy in my church who works with our teen ministry. "

er... Could it be that your "legit" guy is not so "legit?" Remember the BTK guy? He was a boy scout leader and "paragon of his church".

To the OP:

My hat is off to you. If your "reptilian brain" is heaving that alone is good enough - regardless of whether they had tats. With all due respect to anybody who is trying to hang guilt on the OP for having done what he believed was right all I can say to you (respectfully) is "tsk tsk".

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Here's a handy Field Guide to Tattoo Placement if you care what people think. WARNING: Blunt adult comments.
The tattoo location chart was just too funny!
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Re: Door To Door Solicitor Today

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The tat map is really funny.

I just can't think of anything I would want on my body when I am 80. So no tats for me.

We don't have permits here. Is there a sign or something telling people they need a permit? I don't go door to door selling anything, but I have gone prayer walking. We stay off people's property, of course, but will talk with people if they engage us.

I am just wondering how one would know where a permit was required.
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mamabearCali wrote:I am just wondering how one would know where a permit was required.
You could start with your city secretary's office. They should know.
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Yeah, easiest would be checking with your city/secretary/permit office etc
Pretty much the same way a company wanting to do roofing/carpet drying/electrical/sheetrock repair/whatever after a storm hits an area checks to see if permits are required to do work, and solicit to do work, on people's houses ...

I found out that actually riding a bike on the sidewalk at my Courthouse square (even though the library has a bike rack "on the sidewalk at my Courthouse square") is illegal by checking city codes at http://www.municode.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Other cities may post their online but not use Municode.
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RPB wrote:<snip>...checking city codes at http://www.municode.com/.." onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
Thanks for posting that website. I just spent a couple hours browsing through my city's ordinances. :willynilly: Learned a lot.

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hi-power wrote:
RPB wrote:<snip>...checking city codes at http://www.municode.com/.." onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
Thanks for posting that website. I just spent a couple hours browsing through my city's ordinances. :willynilly: Learned a lot.
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And, I labeled each item, so when the city inspector did a "drive-by" inspection the next day, it was the last I heard from them. I had prepared a letter and al for the city council, didn't get to use it. ... My dad was proud. :mrgreen: (remodeling was so he could get a walker/wheelchair into bathroom, and changed out tub for a tub-sized shower .. etc. ..
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Blindref757 wrote: I was probably stupid for opening the door to two strange males who could potentially overpower me
in a way it was good that you opened the door just so that they knew you were home, maybe they were checking to see if anybody was there to commit a robbery. in my opinion
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...that's a common burglar's trick...no response...no barking dog...he's got his job for the morning...if you open the door, he just asks for Herschel or Gertrude...apologizes, and leaves...
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speedsix wrote:...that's a common burglar's trick...no response...no barking dog...he's got his job for the morning...if you open the door, he just asks for Herschel or Gertrude...apologizes, and leaves...
Another favorite "backaway" line is asking if you've seen his lost dog / cat / snake / gerbil / guinea pig, etc......
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My 16 year old son opened the door Friday to a someone who said they were from the alarm company and there to check the alarm. He told them we didn't call anyone for service and to go away. Obvious fishing.

I reminded him him that he needs to keep the door closed and talk through the door. Since he is 16 and obviously knows everything, he countered with he felt safe because he was holding our German Shepard back while talking at the guy. I impressed upon him again that it is still my house, my rules.
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many times have I answered my door with a rifle or shotgun slung across my chest.
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djmarksys wrote:
Blindref757 wrote: I was probably stupid for opening the door to two strange males who could potentially overpower me
in a way it was good that you opened the door just so that they knew you were home, maybe they were checking to see if anybody was there to commit a robbery. in my opinion

The word is burglary "is a crime, the essence of which is illicit entry into a building for the purposes of committing an offense. Usually that offense will be theft, but most jurisdictions specify others which fall within the ambit of burglary".

robbery" is the crime of taking or attempting to take something of value by force or threat of force or by putting the victim in fear".
The two loudest noises are a BANG when you thought there should be a CLICK and a CLICK when you thought there should be a BANG.

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This where video cameras come in real handy. I just flip to the video monitor and see who is at the door. If I don't know who it is, I don't even get out of the chair. And should someone be so stupid to want take that as a sign I am not at home and attempt entry, well my chair has a H & K P7 in the pocket.

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dac1842 wrote:This where video cameras come in real handy. I just flip to the video monitor and see who is at the door. If I don't know who it is, I don't even get out of the chair. And should someone be so stupid to want take that as a sign I am not at home and attempt entry, well my chair has a H & K P7 in the pocket.
oops...think we are at the wrong house....lol
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