Hospitals and Churchs

[Tote 9]

I just returned home last Sunday from Baylor-All Saints Hospital in Fort Worth. I only found one non-compliant gun buster sign on the entrance in the covered walkway from the parking garage. I checked the other entrances and found no signs at all. I ignored the gun buster sign.

Seams to me, if there was not a sign at every entrance, a sign
posted at just one intrance whether it was a valid 30-06 or not
would not have any value or validity.

[anygunanywhere]

Most hospitals I have been in are what is arguably properly posted with the exception of the "contrasting colors" portion - most are white letters on clear gllass. I have found a few that did not have every entrance posted.

One thing I have noticed isd that a lot of the professional buildings right next door to the hospitals arfe not. I accompanied Mrs. Anygun to a professional building next door to where she works. I knew the hospital was posted so I disarmed and when we arrived at the door to the professional building - no 30.06!

Anygun

[GrillKing]

Seams to me, if there was not a sign at every entrance, a sign
posted at just one intrance whether it was a valid 30-06 or not
would not have any value or validity.

My understanding of the law is that once you have been given effective notice as defined in PC30.06 you are then in violation if you enter or don't leave if already there. Once you have seen a sign at an entrance, if it is compliant, you have been given effective notice, regardless of what signage may or may not be at any other entrance. If you then sneak around to the unmarked entrance, you may get away with it, but you have still been given notice.

The law relates to effective notice, not whether or not an entrance is posted, although the more it is posted, the more likely notice is to be effective notice as defined in PC 30.06. Proper posting at every entrance ensures that effective notice was given.

Usual disclaimer, free advice on the internet is worth eaxctly what you pay for it!!

[srothstein]

Any churches have a "Blessed are the Gunmakers" sign?

Yep, the Church of John Browning, and his High Holy Prophet, Jeff Cooper. I am unaware of any others that do but some might.

[kauboy]

§ 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE
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(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the
license holder's person:
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4) on the premises of a hospital licensed under
Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code, or on the premises of a nursing
home licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, unless the
license holder has written authorization of the hospital or nursing
home administration, as appropriate;
(5) in an amusement park; or
(6) on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other
established place of religious worship.
(c) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, at any meeting of a
governmental entity.
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(i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply
if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.


Churches, hospitals, amusement parks, and governmental meetings are all A-OK as long as no valid 30.06 sign is posted.