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Re: UN Gun Control Treaty - FLOPS

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AEA wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wire ... de-treaty/

The UN Member States could not get an agreement and the Arms Control Treaty is a failure - for now.
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Can't you find it ANYWHERE other than Huffington? :banghead:
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Sorry..... :oops:
That's where the wigi board took me...... :roll:

Maybe someone can find a better post of the news, but at least we know it has failed as of now.
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AEA wrote:Sorry..... :oops:
That's where the wigi board took me...... :roll:

Maybe someone can find a better post of the news, but at least we know it has failed as of now.
Ouija board?
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:smilelol5: :smilelol5: LOL...yea....that's it! :thumbs2:

Here ya go....from Fox:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07 ... more-time/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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The UN may take up the matter at a later date, but for now it is on indefinite hiatus.

Perhaps the hiatus could be a la Rip Van Winkle. :lol:
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I have thought for many, many years that the site where the current UN building sits would make a nice parking lot, or good location for a parking garage.... even though I don';t have any concern for NYC in the least. Then I got to thinking that the current building would be a nice facility for the NRA to set up national headquarters. Nice. roomy, and a thorn in the side of mayor bloombrainless.

The UN, and it's failed predessessor "League of Nations" is nothing but a disgusting joke at the expense of the USA.

Dang.... now I'm probably on the watch list :roll:
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AEA wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wire ... de-treaty/

The UN Member States could not get an agreement and the Arms Control Treaty is a failure - for now.
:thewave :thewave :thewave

MaoBama and his Dem croonies have shown their hand on this one, ("working under the radar" as he told Brady).

It is IMPERATIVE that he NOT BE REELECTED! :smash: :smash:
From the article:
"This was stunning cowardice by the Obama administration, which at the last minute did an about-face and scuttled progress toward a global arms treaty, just as it reached the finish line," said Suzanne Nossel, executive director of Amnesty International USA. "It's a staggering abdication of leadership by the world's largest exporter of conventional weapons to pull the plug on the talks just as they were nearing an historic breakthrough."

A Western diplomat, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue, also blamed the U.S., saying "they derailed the process," adding that nothing will happen to revive negotiations until after the U.S. presidential election in November.
I think that Obama read the writing on the wall. He proposes banning stuff and dems insert a magazine capacity limit buried in a cyber bill, and then watches sales of AK47s and AR15s go off the charts in response and requests for concealed carry classes double, and he knows that if he signs the UN bill he won't be able to get elected dog catcher in Poughkeepsie. And except for those dems that are locked into "elected for life" districts, like Charles "Big Daddy Representative for life" Rangel, the rest of those running dogs know that they'll never get another cushy government job so long as they live. Harry Reid didn't even want to talk about it. He knows. He's a political dead man walking if this thing were to pass.
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I sent the following email out to those on my distro list that I know care about such issues...we'll see how it goes from there.
Well, news came out today, 27 July 2012, that the UN Treaty to regulate arms, is “dead in the water”...for now. The Obama Administration has shut it down at the present time because of the coming election. They KNOW that if he signs off on it, they WILL LOSE for 100%. BUT, they also know that they can just wait it out, keep quiet about it…and if they get to stay in power, Obama can then sign it and start using “executive orders” to put at least parts of the treaty into play saying that he has to uphold “international standards”, EVEN IF the Senate doesn’t ratify it (make it legal and binding). It is absolutely ESSENTIAL then that Obama does NOT win re-election. A potential President Romney, with a strong REPUBLICAN House and Senate, will be very busy working on repairing foreign policy and fixing the very weak economy, and won’t bother spending one minute on something like gun control. Please, send this out to family…to friends…to whomever you think may listen…to whomever you think might care…to whomever you think might be sitting on the fence…who might simply not go and vote…Mr. Romney NEEDS EVERY VOTE POSSIBLE to beat the guy in office…and OUR Second Amendment Right “To Keep And Bear Arms” depends on it. Get this message out and let everyone know…NO UN GUN TREATIES for the USA!

Thank you and may God Bless America (because we sure do need it)

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You forgot to mention SCOTUS appointments in there. That's huge.
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RHenriksen wrote:You forgot to mention SCOTUS appointments in there. That's huge.
You are indeed correct. Well, maybe next time I have a reason to send one of those out. Thanks.
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The NRA is being given credit for the defeat. http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/artic ... reaty.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Now you know what your dues are for.
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The NRA may be given the credit and I support them. But I have another suggestion why the US (MaoBama and Hillary) decided to stop this in it's tracks.

MaoBama must have got the word that a overwhelming number of Americans support the 2nd and he decided that this UN treaty (that they supported as an end run to enact more gun control - in the works for many months) was not worth it to him to loose any possibility of being re-elected.

As the election comes closer you will see more of this action by the administration to gain votes. He has already tied the hands of ICE and Border Patrol who can no longer deport illegals and he is trying to eliminate voter ID requirements by many States. Why? Cause he can get those votes!

He is a back stabber and a real conniver to get his way. Probably the same tactics he used to get his "education" and other things in his life.

Basically, he just makes me SICK! :grumble
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AEA wrote:The NRA may be given the credit and I support them. But I have another suggestion why the US (MaoBama and Hillary) decided to stop this in it's tracks.

MaoBama must have got the word that a overwhelming number of Americans support the 2nd and he decided that this UN treaty (that they supported as an end run to enact more gun control - in the works for many months) was not worth it to him to loose any possibility of being re-elected.

As the election comes closer you will see more of this action by the administration to gain votes. He has already tied the hands of ICE and Border Patrol who can no longer deport illegals and he is trying to eliminate voter ID requirements by many States. Why? Cause he can get those votes!

He is a back stabber and a real conniver to get his way. Probably the same tactics he used to get his "education" and other things in his life.

Basically, he just makes me SICK! :grumble
Based on this, you are probably right.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/oba ... 48846.html
Polling is often conducted by campaigns to make sure the candidate's message is in sync with what the voters want to hear.
In other words, he will say anything that will get him votes. What else those remarks get him are pinocchio awards
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AEA wrote:The NRA may be given the credit and I support them. But I have another suggestion why the US (MaoBama and Hillary) decided to stop this in it's tracks.

MaoBama must have got the word that a overwhelming number of Americans support the 2nd and he decided that this UN treaty (that they supported as an end run to enact more gun control - in the works for many months) was not worth it to him to loose any possibility of being re-elected.

As the election comes closer you will see more of this action by the administration to gain votes. He has already tied the hands of ICE and Border Patrol who can no longer deport illegals and he is trying to eliminate voter ID requirements by many States. Why? Cause he can get those votes!

He is a back stabber and a real conniver to get his way. Probably the same tactics he used to get his "education" and other things in his life.

Basically, he just makes me SICK! :grumble
A few posts before this one, I wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:I think that Obama read the writing on the wall. He proposes banning stuff and dems insert a magazine capacity limit buried in a cyber bill, and then watches sales of AK47s and AR15s go off the charts in response and requests for concealed carry classes double, and he knows that if he signs the UN bill he won't be able to get elected dog catcher in Poughkeepsie. And except for those dems that are locked into "elected for life" districts, like Charles "Big Daddy Representative for life" Rangel, the rest of those running dogs know that they'll never get another cushy government job so long as they live. Harry Reid didn't even want to talk about it. He knows. He's a political dead man walking if this thing were to pass.
I will add the following, which I also posted in the "coup de grace" thread:

http://www.examiner.com/article/anti-gu ... un-control
This column’s revelation that the treaty would create a new gun control “secretariat” — translation: a new international bureaucracy — raised even more alarms. That detail was buried several pages back in the treaty draft, and as the saying goes, the Devil is in the details.

{snip}

Global gun control proponents are determined to bring this treaty proposal back to the table in September. They are an unhappy lot, so much so that Suzanne Nossel, executive director of Amnesty International USA, felt compelled to say this:
"This was stunning cowardice by the Obama administration, which at the last minute did an about-face and scuttled progress toward a global arms treaty, just as it reached the finish line. It's a staggering abdication of leadership by the world's largest exporter of conventional weapons to pull the plug on the talks just as they were nearing an historic breakthrough."—Suzanne Nossel, quoted by USAToday.
The irony of this statement is perhaps most stunning to American gun owners, who see the Obama administration as the archenemy of gun rights. It was, after all, President Obama who appointed two liberal anti-gunners to the U.S. Supreme Court. It was Mr. Obama who provided last-minute cover to embattled Attorney General Eric Holder in his effort to withhold documents from the Fast and Furious investigation. It was the president who said in 2009 that he supported the ATT and indicated he would sign it.

{snip}

Victoria Nuland, spokeswoman for Hillary Clinton’s State Department is quoted by the Associated Press story that appears in the Seattle P-I.com. She reportedly said the U.S. — meaning the Obama administration — wants another round of negotiations next year, as in “after the November election.”

Gun owners are coming to full realization just how important the election is, not only on domestic issues but also on an international scale. Because this treaty still has a genuine possibility of resurrection, it remains a threat and in the collective mind of the firearms community the most effective way to stop it is to replace the administration that wants to sign it.
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