Texas Lt. Gov. calls for gun training for teachers

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Re: Texas Lt. Gov. calls for gun training for teachers

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howdy wrote:http://www.chron.com/default/article/De ... 187896.php

"I think all we would succeed in doing is getting some teachers killed," said Houston Federation of Teachers president Gayle Fallon. "The other issue is, I don't really want to see a gunbattle with a bunch of small children around."Fallon, worried about students gaining access to guns in a classroom, said state lawmakers should fund more uniformed police officers in schools.
Teachers are being killed now. Or did you not hear about Sandy Hook? Gun battles with a bunch of children around are happening now. Except it all one-sided. The children have no defense.
howdy wrote:Mental health aid

Grier said additional funding also would allow schools to hire more mental health professionals "to help address the real issue." Any decision to arm teachers would be up to the school board, Grier said, noting that police officers undergo significant training.
This is a myth that many people believe. Police receive plenty of training, but not much of it involves firearms, hostage situations and the like. Here's a typical police academy curriculum. Police training has to cover a great deal of ground, not just active shooter training or firearm safety and competency, because police are going to be confronted with a vast array of issues to deal with. They spend more time on traffic enforcement and accident investigation than they do on firearms, and they do no active shooter training at all. (That's left to special teams like SWAT.)

Teachers training for an active shooter situation at school have one thing to focus on; dealing with that situation in that environment. It should involve firearms training (safety and competency), basic gunfight survival skills, emergency medical treatment skills, maneuvering through the school in an active shooter situation and the like.
howdy wrote:"Is the next step to train all of our bus drivers to carry guns?" Grier said. "This is a very complex issue with no easy answers."
Are we having a school bus held hostage problem? A school bus shooting problem? Let's attack the problem we actually have.
howdy wrote:The Houston Independent School District has armed police at all middle and high school campuses and officers patrol the elementary schools.

At least one Texas district, Harrold ISD near the Oklahoma border, already allows teachers to carry concealed weapons, and others near Kerrville are considering it, according to local media.

Caronetta Jones, the president of the HISD Council of PTAs, said she would be outraged if teachers at her grandson's high school, or any school, were armed.
As outraged as she would be if her grandson was killed by an active shooter because there was no one to save him?
howdy wrote:"Violence against violence - no," she said. "Even if you train the teachers, I totally disagree with that."
So, we should disarm our police? After all, they solve some problems by using violence, but like teachers in an active shooter situation, they don't initiate the violence, they confront it.
howdy wrote:Wrong priorities

Rep. Trey Martinez Fischer, D-San Antonio, said Perry and Dewhurst should concentrate on improving education instead of calling for more guns.

"It is fairly obvious to the people of Texas that teachers need books - not guns - in the classrooms," Martinez Fischer said.
Those books won't kill an active shooter. Or even deter him from deciding to.
howdy wrote:David Rider, the police chief for Fort Bend ISD, expressed reservations about equipping teachers with firearms. Like HISD, the district has armed police officers at its secondary campuses.

"It goes back to training," said Rider, the son of a school principal and counselor. "Right now, police officers are more qualified and have training for critical incidents, as opposed to the average citizen with a concealed handgun license."
But they're never there when you need them. And unless you want armed guards patrolling the halls of every school every day, armed teachers will be there when they're needed. And seriously, which would you prefer? Some unobtrusive, concealed weapon carrying teachers in your child's school? Or armed guards with uniforms and guns patrolling like it was a prison or fortress?
howdy wrote:Houston Police Department Chief Charles McClelland, asked last month about arming educators, echoed the difference between professional officers and citizens who have just fired at stationary targets.
That's all any police officer has done until their first shooting. Unless they're SWAT. So do you want SWAT officers patrolling your schools?
howdy wrote:"I hope our schools remain institutions of learning where kids go to be educated and they're safe and they're not turned into armed camps," he said. "That would be my desire"
Unfortunately, that's not the desire of the nutcases.

howdy wrote:Makes you kinda understand what we are up against....total complete stupidity
More like ignorance.
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