Magpul LEO Sales

[baldeagle]

Back to the Traitors of the 2nd:
No, I don't dislike the products for form or function. I do however refuse to support or give credit to a company that is tricking people into thinking they support your 2nd rights.

First they come out and declare they are on our side, "we stand with you little people against this unjust ban". The sheeple can't wait to sing the praises of the almighty Magpul.. A big company finally on our side

Next, "we still won't sell to you little people, but we need that LEO money to make the quarter profitable. No you won't have a legit need to use these defending you and yours. Only the LEO faces danger worthy of our products.

What on earth are you talking about? When did Magpul ever say they wouldn't sell their products to civilians?

Don't blame gun manufacturers for what politicians have done. That's silly in the extreme.

I suppose you think what they should do is ignore the laws that have passed and ship their product to the affected states anyway. Of course what you have chosen to ignore is that every shipment they sent would make a person in that state a criminal not because Magpul did anything wrong but because the person who ordered their products violated the laws of their state.

Direct your anger where it truly belongs. At the traitorous politicians who are stealing our rights. You seem to have deluded yourself into thinking that somehow Magpul has the power to make these politicians change their minds.

.. Now the horde riots, Magpul must make hasty announcement to correct this horrible direction overnight internet power created

Again, what in the world are you talking about?

Magpul has been very clear about where they stand. If the law passes in CO, they leave. They will sell to individual LEOs and MIL personnel but not to agencies in the affected states.

On the other side of this, we have seen the efforts of the Larimer County Sheriff and others in the CO Sheriffs’ Association, who have been incredible advocates for the Second Amendment here in the fight we are currently in. If a ban passes, these guys would be the ones hurt, and the politicians wouldn’t care. They would also be on our side. On the same front, about 600 of the NYSP have come out in protest of the NY SAFE act and in support of responsible Citizens and the 2A, at the risk of losing their jobs, their retirement, and the safety of their families. Are these the guys that we want to punish? Lumping all individual officers together and wanting to punish them all is no different than politicians who want to punish responsible Citizens for the behavior of criminals. Would a check box on the LE/MIL order form affirming 2A support for all Citizens make a difference? How many out there click on “I Accept” for terms and agreements before an iOS update without reading or caring what they are? Would anyone NOT click such a box? Chuck Schumer would even click that box if he was trying to order PMAGs. (We wouldn’t ship that one.)

I think you're just jealous because LEOs are getting "special" treatment. You seem to have forgotten that they are putting their lives on the line every day while you and I are are shooting paper targets at the range or hunting animals that don't shoot back.

Lets drag up a poster reflecting a time when the USA really did something great, and use it so all the people we are about to lose as customers in our own state will buy up 90days worth in a week. We look like we are supporting the little people, but this ad campaign has to make us look cool even on facebook. The poster being an outstanding psyop campaign from WWII in case some need me to drill it down even further.

... The horde now sing the praise of MAgpul, even as the company espouses the next day the 4th message

And finally coming out with the proclomation that as a vet the CEO is really all about you little people, but he just can't deny the LEO/Mil market. All under the guise that if a LEO will "pinky-swear" not to use those products in true ghestapo fashion while rounding up the peons they will continue to sell them.

That's a bit hyperbolic, don't you think? Traitors? Ghestapo[sic]? They have ceased sales to LEO in the affected states until they can figure out how to create a program that they would feel comfortable selling to them under, and only for personal purchase, not departmental. LEOs are citizens too, you know. Would you deny them purchases simply because they wear a uniform? Have you forgotten that LEOs are the ones taking on the heavily armed criminals every day while you and I sit in our comfortable homes complaining about the way things are going?

What have you done to defend the 2nd Amendment besides complaining about Magpul? Have you refused to travel to any of the affected states? Have you ceased purchasing any and all products that are manufactured or sold in those states? Or are you holding Magpul to a higher standard than you hold yourself?

If people are too dense to see the truth behind the marketing ploy then I can't make it anymore clear for you.

Yeah, we're all quite dense here. We need your enlightenment. But you're going to have to spell it out a lot clearer than this mishmash if you want us dummies to understand you.

Or maybe what you are saying is quite clear. You're blaming Magpul for what politicians have done and you somehow think they could wave their magic wand and make it all go away, if they just weren't such traitors to the 2nd Amendment. Isn't that about it?

EDIT: Just to be clear, I don't own any Magpul products nor have I ever.

[C-dub]

I'm sorry. I can't put together who S&W is in your post. The only thing I can think of is Smith & Wesson. If that's it I don't understand how you're applying it.

Yes, Smith & Wesson and here is a link from the nra records. If they had to face the same firestorm then that the internet has put on Magpul now, there might have been a little less celebration by the Clinton team.

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/news- ... l-out.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

To the resolute supporters of magpul:
If a person can't see the expert level marketing spin being pulled over their eyes by Magpul now, you are better parted with your money to prevent you from aiding and abeting any further as the battle continues for our Uninfringed Rights.

So it was Smith & Wesson and I was not aware of their pact during the previous AWB.
All that aside, your animosity towards MagPul seems unfounded. You don't like them and I get that, but they didn't create the mess that their marketing department is taking advantage of. They are not gouging their prices and are trying to meet our demand for their excellent product. And you don't like Glocks. Okay. I do and shoot well with mine. I don't disparage any of the 1911s because I like my Glocks. Your remarks against these company's products remind me people that complain about some radio or television shows they don't like. Because they don't like it they try to convince others that it is worthless and they shouldn't watch it rather than just change the channel and stop worrying about what others are doing that doesn't affect you.

Just like Uncle Joe, et al, that doesn't think anyone has a need for an AR or a 30 round magazine. "Buy a shotgun" Buy what you like and shoot what you like, but stop telling me that an excellent proven product is no good just because you don't like it.

[gigag04]

[texanjoker]

I first learned of this last week. Just got my confirmation email that I am registered in this program .

I support companies that do this. They are not screwing over individual LEO's like some other companies. In many places individual leo's must buy their own equipment to do the job of protecting the public. I already purchased their products, but now am more inclined then ever.

Magpul is also doing deals like this for residents in CO.

Many companies offer similar programs. S&W, Glock, to name 2.

[Excaliber]

I dislike glocks because they force you to use an other than natural grip, slide bite because the grip is too short, and mags pinch me while shooting brass directly back into my face. Otherwise I am sure they are a fine firearms. I just happen to prefer the XD series of polymer pistols.. But thanks for making assumptions and snide remarks based on years of experience..

Slide bite occurs in one of two ways, both of which are due to operator decisions and / or actions.

You can review the causes and possible solutions here and here.

[DevilDawg]

I dislike glocks because they force you to use an other than natural grip, slide bite because the grip is too short, and mags pinch me while shooting brass directly back into my face. Otherwise I am sure they are a fine firearms. I just happen to prefer the XD series of polymer pistols.. But thanks for making assumptions and snide remarks based on years of experience..

Slide bite occurs in one of two ways, both of which are due to operator decisions and / or actions.

You can review the causes and possible solutions here and here.

Excaliber, thanks as the second one described it most accurately thanks.

I will refrain from responding to the personal attacks from the valued members as it won't benefit the thread or add anything of value to the board as a whole. As to the rest I wish you the best and enjoy the products. I can't help those that have no desire to learn.

[baldeagle]

I will refrain from responding to the personal attacks from the valued members as it won't benefit the thread or add anything of value to the board as a whole. As to the rest I wish you the best and enjoy the products. I can't help those that have no desire to learn.

Translation: I won't respond to what I consider to be personal attacks except to get one last dig in myself, you dummies.

Thanks for clearing that up for us.

[jmra]

I will refrain from responding to the personal attacks from the valued members as it won't benefit the thread or add anything of value to the board as a whole. As to the rest I wish you the best and enjoy the products. I can't help those that have no desire to learn.

Translation: I won't respond to what I consider to be personal attacks except to get one last dig in myself, you dummies.

Thanks for clearing that up for us.

[G26ster]

I will refrain from responding to the personal attacks from the valued members as it won't benefit the thread or add anything of value to the board as a whole. As to the rest I wish you the best and enjoy the products. I can't help those that have no desire to learn.

Translation: I won't respond to what I consider to be personal attacks except to get one last dig in myself, you dummies.

Thanks for clearing that up for us.

[rotor]

Hope they move to Texas. The rest of the arguments especially about Glock have nothing to do with this. They make good products, employ people and can make their products in Texas and sell to anyone that they want to sell to.

[S_3]

I don't see how anyone could ask for more.

I do. At minimum, I ask them to apply the same rules to NY cops that NY cops apply to citizens.

[jmra]

I don't see how anyone could ask for more.

I do. At minimum, I ask them to apply the same rules to NY cops that NY cops apply to citizens.

To each his own.

[Richard_B]

This is an example of how important our oath is to most veterans. It should also tell you something about how we conduct ourselves in combat. So when you read stories about atrocities in Vietnam, or Iraq, or Afghanistan, weigh those stories in that light. Yes, there are atrocities committed by members of our armed forces, but they are decidedly not the norm.

"...all enemies foreign and domestic."

[baldeagle]

I don't see how anyone could ask for more.

I do. At minimum, I ask them to apply the same rules to NY cops that NY cops apply to citizens.

This is what's wrong with America. You're blaming the cops for something the politicians did. Put the blame where it rightly belongs. Many New York cops have spoken out against the law, including the Sheriff's Association.

[texanjoker]

I don't see how anyone could ask for more.

I do. At minimum, I ask them to apply the same rules to NY cops that NY cops apply to citizens.

This is what's wrong with America. You're blaming the cops for something the politicians did. Put the blame where it rightly belongs. Many New York cops have spoken out against the law, including the Sheriff's Association.