Charles L. Cotton wrote:I'm going to have to learn to keep my mouth shut about HB1815! It has been referred to the Senate Criminal Justice Committee after all, and it may be heard in committee on Friday.
If this is the result of you yapping about HB1815, then you keep right on yapping and be proven wrong
srothstein wrote:Well, Greg beat me to the part about how someone could find out if a police officer somewhere is running their applicants for them. This is not hard to get done in many places, such as small towns OR if a reserve works in the HR department, as an example.
I strongly suggest that you (ICheeWaWa) call DPS CHL section and ask them if anyone has checked you status. If they say no, then call the DPS TLETS section and let them know what happened. They can do the off line search to see if someone was running you and may start an investigation on it since it is a crime.
I might have the wrong section of DPS to call, but they should refer you to whoever is the right section. They may have you talk to a detective, a ranger, or the FBI (as part of the NCIC system, the FBI has done these type of investigations when they think a cop is selling the info).
Well, I just got off the phone with DPS and they said they could not tell me if my record had been queried. I couldn't get through to TLETS, so I talked to the CHL division.
Charles L. Cotton wrote:It sounds to me like that have someone running a check on their TDLs. (this used to be called a CPL, but that may have changed.) That's a big "no-no."
Chas.
I am embarrassed to admit I did not consider that. However, it is a possibility. If a LEO or LE communications operator runs the Driver License for them, the CHL would show. Doing that can cost the person their job, a HUGE fine and also a fine to the agency, I believe.
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Not something that I'll ever give out!
Russ
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Retired DPS Communications Operator PCO III January 2014.
I don't have any advice on this. I just feel badly for you. It's a shame that your employer is treating a testament of your good character as evidence of future wrong-doing.
"If a man breaks in your house, he ain't there for iced tea." Mom & Dad.
The NRA & TSRA are a bargain; they're much cheaper than the cold, dead hands experience.
CHL and Martial Arts are treated with the same disdain, I study both.
If people at your workplace discover that you study either one, you are looked upon as 'dangerous'. To demonstrate this point, I once had a 'chat' with someone at work about his rude (drunken) behaviour and told him to knock it off because he was irritating me and others. He asked if I was going to 'karate chop' him. Although I could have easily applied the technique to his mouth, it was better to de-escalate and walk away.
He later appologized and conceeded that he knows I could have easily taken advantage of his condition, and appreciated my restraint.
Just because you posses the knowledge, doesn't mean you have to use it.
para driver wrote:Just because you posses the knowledge, doesn't mean you have to use it.
Very wise!
But I know you wanted to take that head off at the shoulders...
Restraint is sometimes a bitter pill to swallow...But it leaves you free to learn from the experience...And others see that as well...
"Perseverance and Preparedness triumph over Procrastination and Paranoia every time.” -- Steve
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If the company has a strict no-guns policy, and they know you are a CHL holder, they could resonably suspect you might choose to violate that policy.
On the other hand (trying to be positive here) an enlightened employer might like to know that if someone goes postal in the workplace, old Bob probably has a weapon in the car (wink) and might be able to influence the outcome.
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“Sometimes there is no alternative to uncertainty except to await the arrival of more and better data.” C. Wunsch
Speaking of employers and CHL, does anyone else here work for Lockheed in Fort Worth? The Employee Handbook prohibits "(a) Possessing firearms, ammunition, explosives or weapons on Company property; introducing or attempting to introduce these weapons into Company facilities." I would like to have my carry piece in my car so I am protected as I drive to and from work. Many of us (males and females) work odd shifts and it's not uncommon to be driving alone at night. I want to ask but in light of this thread, I'm really hesitant to bring it up.
Does anyone here feel like calling anonymously to ask about the policy?
Security and Emergency Services – Fort Worth (817) 777-2567
Rex B wrote:If the company has a strict no-guns policy, and they know you are a CHL holder, they could resonably suspect you might choose to violate that policy.
This is true. We are also subject to search of our person OR vehicle. I REALLY hope the legislation that grants us the right to keep a weapon secured in our vehicle makes it into law!
propellerhead wrote:Speaking of employers and CHL, does anyone else here work for Lockheed in Fort Worth? The Employee Handbook prohibits "(a) Possessing firearms, ammunition, explosives or weapons on Company property; introducing or attempting to introduce these weapons into Company facilities." I would like to have my carry piece in my car so I am protected as I drive to and from work. Many of us (males and females) work odd shifts and it's not uncommon to be driving alone at night. I want to ask but in light of this thread, I'm really hesitant to bring it up.
Does anyone here feel like calling anonymously to ask about the policy?
Security and Emergency Services – Fort Worth (817) 777-2567
I'll save you the trouble. Lockheed Martin in Fort Worth lobbied for an exception the parking lot bills for their company!
propellerhead wrote:Speaking of employers and CHL, does anyone else here work for Lockheed in Fort Worth? The Employee Handbook prohibits "(a) Possessing firearms, ammunition, explosives or weapons on Company property; introducing or attempting to introduce these weapons into Company facilities." I would like to have my carry piece in my car so I am protected as I drive to and from work. Many of us (males and females) work odd shifts and it's not uncommon to be driving alone at night. I want to ask but in light of this thread, I'm really hesitant to bring it up.
Does anyone here feel like calling anonymously to ask about the policy?
Security and Emergency Services – Fort Worth (817) 777-2567
I'll save you the trouble. Lockheed Martin in Fort Worth lobbied for an exception the parking lot bills for their company!
Yes, but did they get that exception??
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“Sometimes there is no alternative to uncertainty except to await the arrival of more and better data.” C. Wunsch
Charles L. Cotton wrote:I'm going to have to learn to keep my mouth shut about HB1815! It has been referred to the Senate Criminal Justice Committee after all, and it may be heard in committee on Friday.
Scheduled for public hearing on 5-17. Keep talkin' bad about it.
While you're at it, tell us that Perry doesn't have the guts to issue an executive order requiring every CHL to carry at all times.
propellerhead wrote:Speaking of employers and CHL, does anyone else here work for Lockheed in Fort Worth? The Employee Handbook prohibits "(a) Possessing firearms, ammunition, explosives or weapons on Company property; introducing or attempting to introduce these weapons into Company facilities." I would like to have my carry piece in my car so I am protected as I drive to and from work. Many of us (males and females) work odd shifts and it's not uncommon to be driving alone at night. I want to ask but in light of this thread, I'm really hesitant to bring it up.
Does anyone here feel like calling anonymously to ask about the policy?
Security and Emergency Services – Fort Worth (817) 777-2567
I'll save you the trouble. Lockheed Martin in Fort Worth lobbied for an exception the parking lot bills for their company!
Chas.
I don't think they will need an exception. I believe the company is on federal property.
