17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

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Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

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[quote="clarionite"]
Would you assault that person and slam his head into the sidewalk?
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If I believe him to be creepy and he all of sudden began to dig in his pocket for an unknown object, and doing such his weapon was exposed. I too may fear for my life or bodily harm.

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texanjoker wrote:
K.Mooneyham wrote:
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Dragonfighter wrote:You know I find it interesting, the number of blacks at my work who think GZ should be acquitted vs. the number of non-blacks who thinks he's guilty.
I've noticed at my office, most of those that are black feel Zimmerman should be acquitted (all of them that I know of); however, they're all security guards, mostly former LEO and/or military.
I've finally decided that this whole thing mostly boils down to a cultural differnce. Some cultures feel that Zimmerman disrespecting Martin (by following him) justified a beatdown. Those that feel that way also seem to feel Zimmerman is guilty. Those that realize LEGALLY Martin had no right to attack seem to feel Zimmerman is innocent (of a crime).
BINGO! That's what I've been saying. Its about those who are immersed in the thug "culture", who are wannabes of the thug culture, or who believe that to be an acceptable lifestyle, for whatever reason. I don't happen to fit into any of those categories.
I have debated this case in depth with a black leo...he is adamant this case is about race, GZ profiled the deceased and that it is murder. He did have one point that I agreed on. If I was being followed I too would most likely confront the person following me.
I'd call the cops.
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clarionite wrote:[
Would you assault that person and slam his head into the sidewalk?
Exactly. I might confront too, but I'm not going to attach out of fear.

He probably profiled the kid. We all profile. Every last one of us. The shooting could have been avoided. I still don't think Zimmerman should have even been charged in this case.
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I feel like I keep hearing people hint around that their main problem is George Zimmerman cheated in the fight. Not on this thread but in the media. There is no such thing as a fair fight! One clown in the media I heard made the statement that Zimmerman couldn't have been afraid because he had a gun. What the heck kind of libtard convoluted thinking is this?

For those reading this thread that have proclaimed they would confront someone they believed was following them around I have to wonder if you have really thought it out. I have had folks following me around in stores that turned out to be security. They were keeping an eye on me because I was wondering around aimlessly. Big deal! I have had many situations where I thought I was being followed and it turned out the person behind me was headed in the same general direction. Challenging a person because your paranoia is getting the better of you is a good way to start trouble when no trouble existed. The proper move for an innocent person to make if they think they are being followed is evasive action or move quickly towards other people. How about calling a cop? Confronting them is just asking for trouble. Instead of calling a cop, this thug called his girlfriend, bragged he was about to beat the guy down,(and probably steal his wallet), made racial slurs about the person following him and then set up a surprise attack.

For his actions, he is dead! How anyone posting on this thread can make the statement that they would imitate Trayvon Thugs actions and expect to somehow get a different result is beyond me!
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Maybe they think they'd get a different result from confronting a follower because they're carrying a gun?

/libtard mentality

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03Lightningrocks wrote:I feel like I keep hearing people hint around that their main problem is George Zimmerman cheated in the fight. Not on this thread but in the media. There is no such thing as a fair fight! One clown in the media I heard made the statement that Zimmerman couldn't have been afraid because he had a gun. What the heck kind of libtard convoluted thinking is this?

For those reading this thread that have proclaimed they would confront someone they believed was following them around I have to wonder if you have really thought it out. I have had folks following me around in stores that turned out to be security. They were keeping an eye on me because I was wondering around aimlessly. Big deal! I have had many situations where I thought I was being followed and it turned out the person behind me was headed in the same general direction. Challenging a person because your paranoia is getting the better of you is a good way to start trouble when no trouble existed. The proper move for an innocent person to make if they think they are being followed is evasive action or move quickly towards other people. How about calling a cop? Confronting them is just asking for trouble. Instead of calling a cop, this thug called his girlfriend, bragged he was about to beat the guy down,(and probably steal his wallet), made racial slurs about the person following him and then set up a surprise attack.

For his actions, he is dead! How anyone posting on this thread can make the statement that they would imitate Trayvon Thugs actions and expect to somehow get a different result is beyond me!
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03Lightningrocks wrote: Instead of calling a cop, this thug called his girlfriend, bragged he was about to beat the guy down,(and probably steal his wallet), made racial slurs about the person following him and then set up a surprise attack.
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Pardon me, but you are misstating the facts. The female friend called him. It was never stated Martin bragged about a beat down. There is no evidence presented inferring or stating Martin was attempting a mugging. Surprise attack? Did the defense present that, if so with what evidence? Nevertheless, people on both sides continue to spew out their versions of what happened rather what have actually been presented in a court of law.
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Valor wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote: Instead of calling a cop, this thug called his girlfriend, bragged he was about to beat the guy down,(and probably steal his wallet), made racial slurs about the person following him and then set up a surprise attack.
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Pardon me, but you are misstating the facts. The female friend called him. It was never stated Martin bragged about a beat down. There is no evidence presented inferring or stating Martin was attempting a mugging. Surprise attack? Did the defense present that, if so with what evidence? Nevertheless, people on both sides continue to spew out their versions of what happened rather what have actually been presented in a court of law.
OK... instead of calling a cop, he stayed on the phone with his girlfriend and told her some cracka was following him and he was about to beat him down and steal his wallet. Better? He probably told her he might be able to buy a crack rock with his new found wealth. The kid was a punk ghetto thug! You want to pretend he was having a prayer meeting with that girl?

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The whole thing is textbook double standard. GZ is being vilified for either getting out of his truck or not following the 911 dispatcher's request to not follow TM. Yet nobody seems to be willing to second guess TM's not calling the police if he was afraid.
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03Lightningrocks wrote: OK... instead of calling a cop, he stayed on the phone with his girlfriend and told her some cracka was following him and he was about to beat him down and steal his wallet. Better? He probably told her he might be able to buy a crack rock with his new found wealth. The kid was a punk ghetto thug! You want to pretend he was having a prayer meeting with that girl?
I'll buy that if you will buy into Zimmerman being a creepy "cracka" that was out to ensure by all means another "thug" would not get away with terrorizing his neighborhood. Keep in mind, turns out Martin was an invited guess of the property with no criminal record. What factual proof you have that Martin was a thug?

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Valor wrote:
clarionite wrote: Would you assault that person and slam his head into the sidewalk?
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If I believe him to be creepy and he all of sudden began to dig in his pocket for an unknown object, and doing such his weapon was exposed. I too may fear for my life or bodily harm.

I have been followed before in a predatory manner......don't confront because there is likely more than one person getting ready to attack. Run like the devil is behind you (cause he is) to a populated area, call the cops. And get ready to defend yourself. Don't be a fool, you don't want to be where Zimmerman is or worse.

Running and calling the cops saved my life twice.
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Valor wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote: OK... instead of calling a cop, he stayed on the phone with his girlfriend and told her some cracka was following him and he was about to beat him down and steal his wallet. Better? He probably told her he might be able to buy a crack rock with his new found wealth. The kid was a punk ghetto thug! You want to pretend he was having a prayer meeting with that girl?
I'll buy that if you will buy into Zimmerman being a creepy "cracka" that was out to ensure by all means another "thug" would not get away with terrorizing his neighborhood. Keep in mind, turns out Martin was an invited guess of the property with no criminal record. What factual proof you have that Martin was a thug?
His school record, his calling people racial slurs, the fact that he was suspended for ten days and had been out of school more than he had been in it, the burglary tools found in his possession. The fact that his mother could not handle him and so sent him to his father. He was not a church boy on his way to choir practice. He was nearly a man and was on a downward spiral.
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mamabearCali wrote:
Valor wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote: OK... instead of calling a cop, he stayed on the phone with his girlfriend and told her some cracka was following him and he was about to beat him down and steal his wallet. Better? He probably told her he might be able to buy a crack rock with his new found wealth. The kid was a punk ghetto thug! You want to pretend he was having a prayer meeting with that girl?
I'll buy that if you will buy into Zimmerman being a creepy "cracka" that was out to ensure by all means another "thug" would not get away with terrorizing his neighborhood. Keep in mind, turns out Martin was an invited guess of the property with no criminal record. What factual proof you have that Martin was a thug?
His school record, his calling people racial slurs, the fact that he was suspended for ten days and had been out of school more than he had been in it, the burglary tools found in his possession. The fact that his mother could not handle him and so sent him to his father. He was not a church boy on his way to choir practice. He was nearly a man and was on a downward spiral.
You left out the photo's of the marijuana and the THC that was found in his blood. :headscratch It just magically appeared.
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I predict by noon time on Saturday, a verdict of not guilty on all charges. Watch out for marches and hoo-ha-ha water-fight riots
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Beiruty wrote:I predict by noon time on Saturday,. . .
Wow! I hope you are right on this part.
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