All the above are reason for appeal if convicted of manslaughter.squirrel wrote:WildBill wrote: I hope they don't "compromise" with a manslaughter verdict.
I didn't follow every minute of the trial but I didn't see anything that met the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. It's all circumstantial and ad hominem with no real proof. How can any rational person return any verdict other than "not guilty" based on the evidence? Was there some bombshell I missed in the trial?
I can understand somebody thinking Zimmerman shouldn't have got out of his car, but that's not illegal.
I can understand somebody thinking Zimmerman should take a beating even if it kills him, but that's not the law.
I can even understand some racist thinking Zimmerman is automatically guilty because he has lighter skin than Martin.
I can understand all those personal opinions, but I can't understand how someone can honestly think the prosecution proved either charge beyond a reasonable doubt as required by law.
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You say that is aggressive behavior. I say that shows a good heart (if somewhat naive), that he saw his friend being accosted and went to help. I only hope i would have such a friend to help me if they saw me being attacked. As for a domestic dispute....it was a mutual I hate your guts....no crime there.Valor wrote:Thank you for confirming Zimmerman's past aggressive behavior. And thanks again for inferring young men/boys do stupid stuff and can grow up to be productive citizens. Except in this case, one young person will not have a chance to chart a productive path. Realizing this is a public forum and all are entitled to express their opinion; I am angst by folks on both sides with their vilification and obvious biases of Martin and Zimmerman. FWIW, I challenge the pro-Martinites on liberal leaning boards that spew extreme bias as well.ScooterSissy wrote:Pulease. The assault charge was 8 years prior, when he was 21. He "assualted" an undercover agent that he didn't know was an agent, who was manhandling his friend. The charges were eventually dismissed. LEO doesn't allow dismissal of charges in a real assault.Valor wrote:
And Zimmerman assaulted a cop and domestic battery. Then he's a thug as well. Thug on thug crime.
The domestic issue was purely a civil matter, and both parties had restraining orders issued.
As opposed to Mr. Martin who chose to attack someone who had done nothing wrong. Assault and battery is not child play. It is not a game for teens to play and then claim a broken nose and a busted skull was all in good fun. Mr. Martin is dead because of the choices he made. That stinks. But he chose it. This would not even be a story, would not have gone to trial if we lived in a just society. If you had been following the case you could see this for yourself. From no grand jury, to a special prosecutor, to the unbelievable actions of he judge, to the presidents words, this looks and smells like a show trial. I hope I am wrong.
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A verdict has been reached!
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10 pm on a Saturday night ... perfect timing for the start of riots
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NOT GUILTY!!!!!!
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NOT GUILTY!!!!
Dang it TAM and your lightening fingers.
Dang it TAM and your lightening fingers.
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NOT guilty on all charges!
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Going to be a rough night in Sanford. I hope everyone is okay.
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TAF beat him by a minute.Dragonfighter wrote:NOT GUILTY!!!!
Dang it TAM and your lightening fingers.
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I hope the LEO's in Florida have everything under control.
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Justice has prevailed!
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