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suthdj wrote:No I don't want help writing it unless of course TAM wants to do it all, that would get me an A.
Not necessarily. Depending on your professor, you might get a better grade if you take the pro side. ;-)
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suthdj wrote:
Excaliber wrote:The latest edition of John Lott's "More Guns, Less Crime" should provide most of what you need. It's been peer reviewed multiple times and never invalidated.
Yes, but I need at least 5 ref. thanks for that one.

There was a website I read awhile back written by a jewish person about projection by the anti's.
http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/ragingagain ... efense.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Love that article. :thumbs2:
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suthdj wrote:I do need help getting references pro's and con's and yes it is on gun control.
This is a good site to find sources for an academic paper. http://www.jstor.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Jaguar wrote:
suthdj wrote:
Excaliber wrote:The latest edition of John Lott's "More Guns, Less Crime" should provide most of what you need. It's been peer reviewed multiple times and never invalidated.
Yes, but I need at least 5 ref. thanks for that one.

There was a website I read awhile back written by a jewish person about projection by the anti's.
http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/ragingagain ... efense.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Love that article. :thumbs2:
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suthdj wrote:
jimlongley wrote:There are no "fors" either, and it can be shown that it doesn't work, but most of the sites that you will find that do anything more than present raw data for your interpretation, are going to be biased in their own interpretation, so tread carefully.

Also, make sure in advance, that your subject will be accepted. A whole bunch of years ago I turned in a term paper on the history of firearms. The assignment was to present a research based paper, and to show all of the research that took place as an addendum to the paper. Complete bibliography, etc. The "professor" took an entire letter grade off for "inappropriate subject matter."
I hope mine says no before I start it, I already turned in the topic.
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I believe I would have been in the offices of the Dean, Vice President, and President that day especially if the "professor" did not provide a list of "appropriate and inappropriate subject matter" when he made the assignment.

Even then if guns was listed as “inappropriate subject matter" I would raise cain.

Too many "professors" and other school officials have developed a “God complex” since they have some power over young inexperienced students.

A college was jerking my son around until my attorney wrote them a letter letting them know what was “looming on the horizon” as he put it. It was amazing how much of an “attitude transformation” it made.
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VoiceofReason wrote:
suthdj wrote:
jimlongley wrote:There are no "fors" either, and it can be shown that it doesn't work, but most of the sites that you will find that do anything more than present raw data for your interpretation, are going to be biased in their own interpretation, so tread carefully.

Also, make sure in advance, that your subject will be accepted. A whole bunch of years ago I turned in a term paper on the history of firearms. The assignment was to present a research based paper, and to show all of the research that took place as an addendum to the paper. Complete bibliography, etc. The "professor" took an entire letter grade off for "inappropriate subject matter."
I hope mine says no before I start it, I already turned in the topic.
Jim
I believe I would have been in the offices of the Dean, Vice President, and President that day especially if the "professor" did not provide a list of "appropriate and inappropriate subject matter" when he made the assignment.

Even then if guns was listed as “inappropriate subject matter" I would raise cain.

Too many "professors" and other school officials have developed a “God complex” since they have some power over young inexperienced students.

A college was jerking my son around until my attorney wrote them a letter letting them know what was “looming on the horizon” as he put it. It was amazing how much of an “attitude transformation” it made.
And in this day and age you can bet I would, but in 1966 that was unheard of activity, the professor was god and pretty much unquestionable, I did file a complaint and had to go to a hearing where I was basically told that I should have cleared a "controversial" subject in advance. Part of the reason I dropped out the following semester, never to return.

Interestingly enough, he was the Dean of the department, and some years later when a transcript from there was requested they made me go in and apply for it face to face, the records from the 60s were not archived electronically. When the registrar's flunky pulled the book out and showed me the line my marks were on, you could see that ALL of them had been whited out and recorded in the same pen and hand as 'F's, and that it was different handwriting from the other lines above and below, leading me to strongly suspect that he or one of his minions sabotaged the record. I had a copy of my grades from that time (not acceptable as a transcript) and was able to prove to them that I got 'A's in Physics and Electronics, and a 'C' in Math (I know, but it was the class right after lunch) and a 'D' in "Social Studies." They said they would fix it, but by then I moved on.

Probably what made me the way I was with my kids in school when I would walk right in to a Principal or Dean's office and challenge them straight up.
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As I've posted so many times before, I grew up in academia; my parents both being professors at an internationally prestigious institution. I remember hobnobbing with Nobel Prize winners and many of the leading lights in the sciences and in literature. Whatever paltry skills at writing I possess were nurtured in that environment, because I did not ever actually graduate from any university I attended. I never got any further than completing my Junior year at A&M.

Outside of the hard sciences and engineering, academia is, by and large, an intellectual fraud. It is a haven for people who could not earn an honest living by other means. It is an echo chamber of like-minded people who have rarely ever produced something useful to society. But, they control one thing: access to the initials which will be appended to your name should you graduate, and those initials may have bearing on your own future earning power.

If you do not partake of their coolaid, there is only one rational way to approach a college education: wear your intellectual body armor and helmet, keep your head down, keep your nose to the grindstone, endure their kabuki, parrot back to them whatever they want to hear. In the meantime, find a group of like-minded students to yourself, and draw your intellectual stimulation from them, and not from the dried up old lint-brains reciting their version of utopia to you in the classroom. Take upon yourself the responsibility of reading books in addition to the ones assigned. In your history classes, when assigned "A People's History Of The United States" by Howard Zinn, fortify yourself by also reading Shelby Foote's "Civil War," volumes 1 through 3, and "Liberal Fascism" by Jonah Goldberg. When it comes time to write the inevitable paper, give it back to them exactly as they want to hear it, THEN, rewrite it for yourself and share it within your community of fellow travelers. All in your group are trudging through a dark place in order to attain a goal at the other end. Encourage one another, and keep one another's intellectual sparks alive and alight.

If you do these things, you will come out on the other side with several prizes besides your degree, among which will be the fact that your education will have been much more rigorous and comprehensive than those of your classmates who drank deeply of the coolaid, AND a network of lifelong friends who have made that journey with you and who will stand you in good stead both in your personal and professional lives as long as you live.

Also, if you are a person of faith, be sure that you remain plugged into your particular faith community at all times. Do not let the flaming arrows of cynical academe penetrate your armor (Ephesians 6:10-17, for those of you who are Christians). Whatever you gain in college is temporal. Whatever you might lose is eternal. Don't forget that.

The bottom line is this: They can make your life hard, but they cannot take your mind, unless you surrender it.
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As a self taught history buff who is going back to school :banghead: :grumble I couldn't agree more with TAM especially the note regarding Shelby Foote's Civil War. I also cannot count how many times I have witnessed the liberal indoctrination of our nation's youth via the academic venue. It's sickening :mad5 .

I too am writing papers - 2 to be exact, 1 for my education class and 1 for my sociology class - on gun rights. With being a non-traditional student (read as having a real world education) I do not fear speaking on any subject in class and I guess the ability to do so intelligently as my professors and I have many constructive discussions. With that I have gained their respect and that is allowing me to take the pro 2A stance for these papers :woohoo .

If there are any more links you all can throw out here I can assure you they will be appreciated :tiphat: .
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TAM, may I please borrow your post to share with my children (one in college and one a Jr. in High school). We are both blessed and cursed in that they both are very strong willed and conservative minded and unafraid to speak their minds (have no idea where they get that from). However we have had the older one struggle with how "frustrating stupid people with power can be". MARuss and I have both tried to teach them to "learn to play the game and learn both sides of the story - not be afraid to question those in authority if it doesn't feel/sound right." But teaching them when/when to not question, but just comply is very hard. Your post is wonderful (no surprise), and I thank you.

Sorry to hijack the thread - good luck with your paper.
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