Disparity of force (Motorcycle Gang Incident in New York)

[G0C]

Some ten years ago when we doing a job aboard Camp LeJeune, NC, we would see groups of 50-70 Sunday bikers on the back road to Swansboro and New Bern. We never heard of such chicanery and hooliganism by these southern bikers as was displayed by the yankee bikers in the article. Why is that?

I don't know but I bet it has something to do with mindset and culture. In places like The South, the locals might not be shy about using their pickup trucks to teach punks some manners. And if they pick on granny in her Buick, some of her neighbors might be gentlemen and protect her. However, in yankee metro areas like NYC and DFW, the locals don't feel that social obligation.

Another factor is those bikers in NC probably knew who fathered them.

[Jaguar]

According to the New York Post, http://nypost.com/2013/10/02/da-wont-ch ... v-beating/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Allen Edwards, 43, of Queens, who allegedly smashed Alexian Lien’s rear driver’s side window with his fist, surrendered to cops Tuesday morning but will not be charged, the sources said.

“The DA declined to prosecute. Look at [The Post’s] front page [Tuesday]. He’s there on the motorcycle right next to [Lien] after he got beat up,” an angry law enforcement source said.

So, smash someone's mirror, brake check them, attack them, smash their window, and the DA doesn't want to prosecute.

[G26ster]

Some ten years ago when we doing a job aboard Camp LeJeune, NC, we would see groups of 50-70 Sunday bikers on the back road to Swansboro and New Bern. We never heard of such chicanery and hooliganism by these southern bikers as was displayed by the yankee bikers in the article. Why is that?

I don't know but I bet it has something to do with mindset and culture. In places like The South, the locals might not be shy about using their pickup trucks to teach punks some manners. And if they pick on granny in her Buick, some of her neighbors might be gentlemen and protect her. However, in yankee metro areas like NYC and DFW, the locals don't feel that social obligation.

Another factor is those bikers in NC probably knew who fathered them.

Perhaps you missed all the coverage during 9/11/01 in NY and DC. I found it quite a show of ordinary folks helping ordinary folks in the most horrific of circumstances.

[Vol Texan]

Same group of bikers attacking another vehicle in 2011.
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Numerous videos from before the incident on LiveLeak.
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Sorry for not embedding. I could not figure out how to. =/

TREKFAN,

I just learned recently that the admins here don't want LiveLeak links posted here. I didn't know it myself until I read this post by Charles: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=68698&p=848384&hilit=liveleak#p848384

[philip964]

http://nypost.com/2013/10/02/da-wont-ch ... v-beating/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

DA wont charge bike assault thug in SUV beating.

Oops already posted. Sorry.

[Cedar Park Dad]

Some ten years ago when we doing a job aboard Camp LeJeune, NC, we would see groups of 50-70 Sunday bikers on the back road to Swansboro and New Bern. We never heard of such chicanery and hooliganism by these southern bikers as was displayed by the yankee bikers in the article. Why is that?

I don't know but I bet it has something to do with mindset and culture. In places like The South, the locals might not be shy about using their pickup trucks to teach punks some manners. And if they pick on granny in her Buick, some of her neighbors might be gentlemen and protect her. However, in yankee metro areas like NYC and DFW, the locals don't feel that social obligation.

Another factor is those bikers in NC probably knew who fathered them.

Never ever pick on Granny in her Buick Battleship. By the time she has slowed that battlewagon to see what those bumps were, she'll be in the next county, and her car is made of STEEL...

[Pecos]

Maybe that was the Hecks Angels or the Banditos NYC chapter on Crouch Rockets?

[Tic Tac]

Some ten years ago when we doing a job aboard Camp LeJeune, NC, we would see groups of 50-70 Sunday bikers on the back road to Swansboro and New Bern. We never heard of such chicanery and hooliganism by these southern bikers as was displayed by the yankee bikers in the article. Why is that?

I don't know but I bet it has something to do with mindset and culture. In places like The South, the locals might not be shy about using their pickup trucks to teach punks some manners. And if they pick on granny in her Buick, some of her neighbors might be gentlemen and protect her. However, in yankee metro areas like NYC and DFW, the locals don't feel that social obligation.

Another factor is those bikers in NC probably knew who fathered them.

Perhaps you missed all the coverage during 9/11/01 in NY and DC. I found it quite a show of ordinary folks helping ordinary folks in the most horrific of circumstances.

Perhaps he understands the difference between dealing with bad guys, and picking up the pieces of their victims afterward. Both acts are noble but they are different.

[G26ster]

Some ten years ago when we doing a job aboard Camp LeJeune, NC, we would see groups of 50-70 Sunday bikers on the back road to Swansboro and New Bern. We never heard of such chicanery and hooliganism by these southern bikers as was displayed by the yankee bikers in the article. Why is that?

I don't know but I bet it has something to do with mindset and culture. In places like The South, the locals might not be shy about using their pickup trucks to teach punks some manners. And if they pick on granny in her Buick, some of her neighbors might be gentlemen and protect her. However, in yankee metro areas like NYC and DFW, the locals don't feel that social obligation.

Another factor is those bikers in NC probably knew who fathered them.

Perhaps you missed all the coverage during 9/11/01 in NY and DC. I found it quite a show of ordinary folks helping ordinary folks in the most horrific of circumstances.

Perhaps he understands the difference between dealing with bad guys, and picking up the pieces of their victims afterward. Both acts are noble but they are different.

So I guess all the first responders and civilians, many of whom died to try and save potential victims, were just "picking up the pieces" and came from somewhere else.

[Keith B]

OK, get back on topic of the incident.

[nightmare69]

Anyone else going to the Bo rally in Jefferson starting tomorrow? My 1% outlaw MC gang are on our way, pic from today...

Im the club president in the blue helmet leading the pack.



We call our self the "Pink Turtles" We are not to be messed with.

[bizarrenormality]

OK, get back on topic of the incident.

The family of Mieses (the hospitalized criminal) announced today they hired celebrity Gloria Allred to harass the Asian family he and his gang attacked.

In related news, CBS reporter Tony Aiello revealed that Mieses didn't have a motorcycle license because it was suspended until 2017. You can probably guess why.

[rbwhatever1]

Law Abiding Citizens are now the criminals for "trying to run away from violence".

Where is that tree of liberty....

[mojo84]

OK, get back on topic of the incident.

The family of Mieses (the hospitalized criminal) announced today they hired celebrity Gloria Allred to harass the Asian family he and his gang attacked.

In related news, CBS reporter Tony Aiello revealed that Mieses didn't have a motorcycle license because it was suspended until 2017. You can probably guess why.

I wonder if they initiated the contact with Allred or if she contacted them or had someone do it on her behalf.